Start Mitchell at the Point.

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  1. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    It's time.
     

  2. utahjazzz

    utahjazzz Well-Known Member

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    no, exum should be the primary pg for the jazz
     
  3. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    Start over-reactive threads.

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  4. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Nope
     
  5. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

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    No, I still prefer him playing at the point at given times, but not start.
     
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  6. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I'm good with that.
    I want the ball in his hands as often as possible and making him starting point would help accomplish that.
    I also want maximum amount of shooting on the court with DM and Rudy and Donovan starting at pg helps with that as it keeps Rubio out of that lineup.

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  7. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

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    No. Look at the team's they're playing. The schedule eased up right at the right time
     
  8. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

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    Agree to disagree fish. The way Mitchell plays I don’t think it would be wise to have him carry that load all the time. It’s better when he plays point sporadically and in the end of games because he’s our best scorer. But play him at point all the time you’ll gas him out.
     
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  9. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, he is not ready to start at PG yet. He has been better with his decision making the last few games but remember than just a couple of weeks ago he was making very poor decisions with the ball in his hands. Sure, he can play the position but not full time yet.
     
  10. Sandman822

    Sandman822 Well-Known Member

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    I mean I don't disagree but I do find this kind of ironic considering the amount of people who were calling for Exum to start at the point because he dismantled the Knicks.
     
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  11. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Furthermore, DM acknowledged just days ago how demanding is to play PG and how hard Ricky and Exum must play. Too much load for our best offensive weapon
     
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  12. jope

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    It’s a work in progress. That said I think it’s inevitable that Mitchell ends up as a full time or nearly full time pg. his stature and athleticism renders him physically elite at the position.

    So far his averages filling in at full time pg:
    33p/8a/4r

    We’ll keep an eye on that moving forward.
     
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  13. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    This is about competition level more than a positional change.
     
  14. Sandman822

    Sandman822 Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion (please note this is only an opinion), if the big revelation from the 2nd half of the season (not just one game, the 2nd half of the season) is that Mitchell can handle say 20 minutes a night at the PG spot and he can run the point effectively then the implication isn't really about starting Mitchell full time at PG as I don't think that's the best use of Mitchell. The implication would be more around the question of whether it's worth paying Rubio the money he's going to be asking for to provide the things he does for the Jazz in the offseason vs spending that money that Rubio will want to go out and get some more shooting on the wings and pick up a cheap backup PG for Exum instead.

    Like you might be able to go get Danny Green and Darren Collison for close to the same price tag that Rubio might be asking for as an example, and you can start a lineup of Exum/Mitchell/Ingles/Favors/Gobert, have Collison/Korver/Green/Crowder/Royce/maybe Allen as your main guys coming off the bench, and then close games with a Mitchell/Green/Ingles/Crowder/Gobert lineup with Korver available if he's having a good shooting night and/or one of those three wings aren't playing well, Favors there if Gobert is having a hard time staying on the floor against particular teams, and Exum also available if he's playing well enough to justify him over one of those three wings or in rare cases maybe even Mitchell himself.

    I don't know if Mitchell's current play at PG is sustainable (my gut says no), but if it is it's a good problem for the Jazz management to have going into the offseason.
     
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  15. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    I'm just sick of watching Rubio bricking 3's. That's my main frustration.

    Rudy
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    DM

    I'd much prefer having O'Neal there with his size, his finish above the rim and 3pt shooting. Also you have DM and Ingles already handling the ball, that's plenty of ball handler.

    It just gives us 1 extra 3pt shooter on the floor. And like @fishonjazz said, I'd prefer DM having the ball in his hand as much as possible.
     
  16. David Ginola 14

    David Ginola 14 Well-Known Member

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    Trade Rubio.. it’s time..
     
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  17. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    OL it’s simple. Exum is the new started PG
     
  18. Sandman822

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    I do think it's also interesting to note that the two games in recent memory where the Jazz have managed to come out of the gates running instead of falling behind early or being in a close game are the two games where Exum and Mitchell started at PG. Of course the competition was the Knicks and LeBron-less Lakers so it wasn't great, but it's not like Rubio's start against the Cavs who are the worst team in the league meant we blew the doors off them early, or Neto's start resulted in the Jazz getting a leg up on the Magic early either. Rubio and Neto are closer to the classic pure PG model while Exum and in particular Mitchell are more combo guards.
     
  19. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    Not quite...

    Exum is shooting 30.5% from 3's this year. O'Neal is shooting 38.6%. It's simple, I'd rather have a better 3pt shooter on the floor. Defensively I think they're pretty much comparable.

    Also I'd much prefer DM having the ball in his hand more.
     
  20. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been saying this since early on in the season so... ya.
    They played the bucks and Mitchell played at least or close to half the game at PG. are you saying the bucks are cupcakes?
    Sure, at first, but he’ll adjust mentally and Physically as he does it night in and out.
    See my post above. It’s no different than a rookie adjusting to an 82 game schedule in the nba.
     

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