The names that keep coming up over and over...

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Grimmetal, May 5, 2019.

  1. Grimmetal

    Grimmetal Well-Known Member

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    What's the deal with all of the rehashed ideas? There is nothing new or imaginative about anything I'm seeing from the Jazz fan base. It's falling into one of two camps: Bring back/pine for former Jazz players or continue to pine for players that have been linked via free agency or trade over the past two years.

    Examples:
    Hayward, Hill, Hood, Kanter, Milsap, Tobias Harris, Conley, Mirotic, Jabari, Jimmer, Wiggins, Middleton...

    Do any of those players move the needle? I mean, really? I most cases, you're replacing Favors while still trying to fill the PG hole which has largely been unsolvable to DL. Shooters? Fine, but you can't spend much FA capital on shooters alone unless you have a full team to back them up. See: Philly. They were a very good team yes, but they had a Center, PG and a bunch of shooters. They needed more playmakers and got Butler and Harris.

    So, what do all of the remaining playoff teams have in common? They have multiple guys that can run an offense AND set up their own shots AND are very good at that. Paul/Harden. Curry/Durant/Klay. Leonard/Lowry. etc.

    How many of those guys fill that need? Harris and Conley? Harris is available, but you're still out a secondary ball handler up top with limited resources to fix that. Favors is going to be a huge part of what they do no matter what. Rubio is gone and doesn't figure into anything else other than cap space at this point.
     
  2. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    If you take those guys away, who are we going to talk about?
     
  3. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Man if only we had an extra 10 Mill or a usable trade chip. Instead we have DedEx
     
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  4. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Jimmer, lol
     
  5. RJF

    RJF Well-Known Member

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    Harris, Conley, and Middleton are the only on that list that I think move the needle.

    That reads like a law firm...
     
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  6. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    I think we should be talking about Justise Winslow. Miami is in a rough spot with some bad contracts, no 2021 pick, and the desire to spend a ton in summer 2020. Sure he might seem like a franchise cornerstone right now, but Miami is stuck in that terrible area of outside a top 10 pick but barely in playoff contention.

    If Miami traded Winslow so they could get out from some contracts (Olynyk and/or James Johnson) and get an additional draft pick, that would be wise for them. They could go full tank next season and have a ton of expirings get off the books (Ryan Anderson, Whiteside, Dragic, etc.). Then they go out and spend a ton in 2020 free agency.

    With Winslow's ability to play some PG, we could move Donovan to PG while starting Donovan, Royce, Ingles, Winslow and Gobert. We wouldn't run a true PG, but we would have 3 guys who could initiate offense.
     
  7. Jingled

    Jingled Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Who do you think we should be talking about? There are only so many players available that the Jazz actually have a somewhat realistic chance at acquiring.
     
  8. David Hume

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    It’s not happening because he’s restricted, but D’Angelo Russell would be a good replacement for Rubio. And I’d be happy to have Jimmy Butler on our team.
     
  9. David Hume

    David Hume Active Member

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    Oh, it would also be nice to see someone, even the Jazz, throw money at Terry Rozier that complicates Boston’s plans and makes Boston squirm having to match.
     
  10. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I've got some pretty sweet Garbage Pail Kids cards we could talk possible trades about.
     
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  11. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    Wow!! Now that’s a blast from the past. I collected these as a youngster. My mom hated that me and my bros collected them


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  12. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    You forgot Kemba, does he not move the needle?


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  13. outerspacefan

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    Well, I think a player like Tobias Harris would certainly move the needle the right way. IMHO Kemba Walker would do it too. I don't see either one happening though.
     
  14. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    I like Jimmy Butler's game. I worry about his attitude and if it would wear on the team. That said if they could add him they should, he's the exact kind of player that fills all the needs for the Jazz.
     
  15. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    If we could get all 3 of them it'd be awesome.
     
  16. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    I had the tooth decay one lol blast from the past hahaha
     
  17. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    I have my worries about DM as our pg, we restrict his freedom to score.

    Get us a true pg and watch us make some noise
     
  18. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I don’t have stats in front of me but seemed like he scored more and shot better, all be it was a small sample.
     
  19. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    It just seems like he over thinks when he's in that role coughs it up alot should just be our prolific scorer sg
     
  20. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    This was his second year in the league, and I didn’t see him overthink anything, just looked like the same guy as always playing his game, what I saw was someone more into the game because he had the ball every possession. Feels like your just saying stuff.
     

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