Who is at fault?

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Mission Accomplished, Dec 2, 2012.

Who is at fault?

  1. Coach Corbin

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  2. KOC

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  1. Mission Accomplished

    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    Now I know that this site is full of KOC apologist but let me try to sway your. First if you were a head coach your goal is to win as many games as possible. How is he at fault when he plays the guys that he has been given? How many Raja Bell experiments do we have to go through? You can't keep filling your team with B- vets then expect the coach to not use them to try to win now vs. using the unexperienced rookies/youth. Our team has good to great offensive talent yet what does KOC keep going out and getting? Scorers like Murphy WTF is up with that why doesn't he draft some players like the Leonard/Farried/Biyombos? I keep seeing articles stating that we are the team with the most movable assets and that we can make the most improvement at the trade deadlines. But, except the Dwill move what has KOC done???? Come on you can blame a coach or realize KOC is/was the problem.
     
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  2. Cope

    Cope Well-Known Member

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    No ones fault... We are, with this schedule, in a good position.

    KOC has set us up for next year in a GREAT spot..... How do some not see this?
     
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  3. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    You lost me there.
     
  4. Mission Accomplished

    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    I'm saying that instead of going after players who play great defense in the draft he keeps chasing scores that are known to be defensive liabilities. This year with the Murphy pick is the perfect example why do we need another scorer? Where are the defensive players to balance these offensive players?
     
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    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;NZR64EF3OpA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZR64EF3OpA[/video]

    I'm a really good man just a horrible GM
     
  6. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    In defense. It's much easier to teach defense than offense. Also, we need floor spreaders..
     
  7. spycam1

    spycam1 Well-Known Member

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    Both.

    I've always been annoyed by the vet signings (Howard, Foye), which is obviously on KOC for not letting the youth movement begin. But, Corbin has taken those vets and played them more than any sensible coach would. Even if you're trying to win now, and not paying any attention to the future, I don't see how you can justify playing Raja Bell, Josh Howard, and CJ Miles over Hayward and Burks. This year, those vets aren't as bad (Marvin and Foye), but how it is resulting in DNP's more often than not for Burks is beyond ridiculous. Not to mention the constant pulling of Favors/Kanter, even when they're outplaying their vet counterparts. Signing the vets in the first place is on KOC, and he deserves more hate on here, but Corbin has taken it to another level. Let me put it this way: whomever puts a gun in the hands of an infant should be at fault for whatever damage is done, yes? But, Corbin is no ordinary infant--he's taken the gun KOC gave him and shot, not just one person in the room, but every single ****ing person on the entire block.
     
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    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    New avatar for this thread Wizard of Oz behind the curtain saying "ignore the man behind the curtain." So, so relevant!!!!
     
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    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if that is true because defense is something that most players lack especially on the Jazz.
     
  10. green

    green Well-Known Member

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    Corbin rewards Kanter's ridiculous 15 mins with....what 12? and plays Evans 9? Crazy. Burks not really playing at all this year? Crazy. Starting Al and Millsap when Favors is clearly better? Crazy. Allowing Jefferson and Millsap to play ZERO defense, while Favors rides the pine? Crazy.

    As rough as our schedule is, with how many road games we have had, and as decent as our record is, with a better coach, we are much better.

    Last year, we were 2 games out of the sixth spot. TWO games. Four games out of fifth. We have the talent to be a top 4 team. We don't have a coach with the balls to coach a top 4 team.
     
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    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    We don't have a team with top 4 talent. We have potential yet our GM is trying to be a factory for midlevel has beens. Dont' get me wrong I like Foye, Jefferson, and Mo but what is his ultimate goal. It seems like mediocracy.
     
  12. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Take my word, then.
     
  13. DutchJazzer

    DutchJazzer Well-Known Member

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    where is the big al and corbin option
     
  14. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    I only voted because I wanted to see the results, as I'd like a new Coach, I really can't blame Ty as we have had one of the toughest schedules to start the year, and we are in the mix.

    As for KOC, it's tough for me to blame him because everything he does is guess work. Every GM has more then one or two blemishes on their resume's, and add to the fact GM duties get even tougher in Ut then in even many of the other small markets, so in my estimation the deck is even more stacked against KOC then most other GM's.
     
  15. Brown Notes

    Brown Notes Well-Known Member

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    It's JF's fault. The team saw the board after the gritty OKC loss and decided to show all of us what a really ****ty effort looks like. That'll teach us, eh?
     
  16. 8

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    It's my fault for expecting the team to play hard.
     
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