Why does Corbin play Marvin Williams over Carroll?

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Harold Hoof, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. Harold Hoof

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    I can't figure out a logical reason. Williams has had ample time to showcase what he's capable of in the league, as well as on the Jazz through the first 30 or so games. What he's shown is the capability of having a productive 10 minutes once every five or six games, and nothing else. Carroll should be playing over him. In fact, Williams getting any PT is counterproductive to the success of this team in the immediate future and long term.

    Tyrone Corbin should donate his salary so tickets are cheaper for one game. He has embarrassed himself as a coach and every second he remains our coach is a second too long.
     
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  2. Revolution 9

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    It's one of the many mysteries of Tyrone.

    As I said in another thread. He can jerk around, and move Hayward Burks and Carroll......why does Marvin get a free pass?
     
  3. midnight_hwy

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    One reason... Marv is a Vet.
     
  4. Gas

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    Marvin sucks.
     
  5. Sneakers

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    I hope we manage to trade Marv just so we're forced to reupp Demarre. Yeah he's limited but... so is Marv rofl.
     
  6. Saint Cy of JFC

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    I love Carroll, but I think he is the kind of guy who would be worse if he had to play over 25 mpg.
     
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  7. Sneakers

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    Too bad we don't have a really pretty good SF that could start on the bench yet somehow consume enough minutes so Demarre didn't have to play more than 25 if he started. Too bad.
     
  8. Revolution 9

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    He's miles ahead of Marvin. Marvin's defense is vastly overrated here. Carroll's man to man defense isn't great, but he
    just makes plays all over the court. Marvin is a ****ing ghost out there.
     
  9. DutchJazzer

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    mythical vet power.

    you wouldn't udnerstand.
    you need to believe in the superstitious to get it
     
  10. Dr. Jones

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    Life sucks.
     
  11. illyasova

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    Life sucks for youngsters in Jazz. I really believe no high profile rookies are gonna want to play for us. I am sure Brandon Knight or Valancinuas thanks god not to be selected by us.
     
  12. vegas

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    He's the man that you love to hate
     
  13. Weezur

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    Did you miss the stupid fouls that Carrolle committed today?
     
  14. Sneakers

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    Weezur go home, you're drunk
     
  15. kabenac

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    I would like to see Carroll start. Though let's sign him for a few years first!
     
  16. franklin

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    Refs missed a fourth right after his third too.
     
  17. HeavenHarris

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    KOC is prolly forcing him to play marvin because he is embarrased of trading for him and wants him to succeed really really bad prolly
     
  18. Sneakers

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    I guess this post was a little too "trolly" for Franklin... I was due for some neg rep from that guy.

    What I *meant* to say is that you point to a couple knickknack fouls against Carroll, I'll point to going-on months of invisibility, ineptitude and utter non-contribution from Marv and almost regular positive contribution from Carroll. This is in spite of Marv's contractually guaranteed (I can only presume) starting spot and Carroll's on and off again doghouse status. And I loved Marv at the start of the season... search my posts, its true. But he is the new Raja Bell. You cannot justify the minutes he is getting right now.
     
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  19. Weezur

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    Carrolle's stupid fouls are the reason Marvin got 36 minutes today.
    I'm not trying to argue whether or not Marvin or Carrolle deserve to play, I'm just saying that that's why Marvin got 36 minutes.


    Look, I've said what I've wanted to say about Marvin. He's not great at all, but he's much better than what we've had (CJ, Howard, Bell, etc.).
    He's a classic example of if you don't try, you don't fail. He doesn't make stupid mistake and the same time, looks like he's not contributing.

    Contrast is Carrolle who tries really hard, but he also fails. He misses rotations and gambles on defense to make the hustle play. He does amazing things but equally does stupid things and this is what an energy guy does.

    And those knick knack fouls are stupid, he's not supposed to be trying to steal the ball when he's defending a triple-threat. All the offensive player has to do is swing his arms and bam!, that's a 2 shot foul. Unnecessary fouling is a stupid thing to do on defense and he can't be out there using all 6 of his fouls. He's going to get the other team shooting bonus free throws all game.
     
  20. Sneakers

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    Well first of all this thread was created when tonight's game was in its infancy, so it wasn't directed specifically at tonight in anyway (other than the first 5 minutes).

    If Marvin's contribution to the team is "not trying" then I'm sorry that is not enough. He does nothing. But at least in doing nothing he isn't doing a negative something? That just ain't gonna cut it man.
     

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