5D chess by JZIf Quin were to not like him, Butler would probably be a fairly big beneficiary because he may likely, and unconsciously, actively play Butler more out of spite.
5D chess by JZIf Quin were to not like him, Butler would probably be a fairly big beneficiary because he may likely, and unconsciously, actively play Butler more out of spite.
NAW was a turnover machine in his last few games in NO. he played an average of 20mins.From Andy Larsen's 'Tripple Team' article tonight about NAW
I’m going to go ahead and post it because I think it’s an important part of the process.
This whole public tour of him reporting to a team he’ll never play for, taking media photos in jerseys, etc. There’s obviously a business side and $11M is no small beans, but I think all the emotion Joe has felt, all he’s done for the franchise and community, wanting to “be with” the team, even if not playing, being constantly in trade rumors all year… I know he understands it’s business, but with all that passion and sacrifice on the line, it’s going to be hard for him to see all he’s done over the years and feel an important part of the franchise and community and feel he’s being reduced and distilled down to “a contract.” “A liability.” And that’s going to sting, no matter how much he intellectually says the correct “it’s business” answers, and no matter how much he can go through the motions of saying “if me being traded helps the team.”
This is Joe’s way of passive-aggressively saying “**** you” to the higher ups of the organization. If we’re still trying to contend as a team, we’ve gotten rid of his space at the table. It’s like waiting in line for a ride with your buddies and one of your kids. You get to the front of the line and find out the ride only seats 5 and there’s 6 of you, so you ask your kid if they’re okay with you and your buddies going, since they’re a little kid and may not even like it, and you tell them you’ll go on it with them some time later. Not today, and not next weekend. But sometime.
Your kid’s gonna ****ing hate you. It doesn’t matter how “cool with it” they seemed when you put them on the spot.
You can argue business all you want and that’s a reality. But this is what’s happening when you peel back the “it’s just business” and get to the emotion behind it.
Everyone kept saying how “Joe’s heart is always here” and “he doesn’t want to play anywhere else” and “he’s going to stay in SLC” and “he’ll re-sign with us in the summer.” Everyone repeating how we’re not trading Joe, we’re “just trading a contract” and it’s “just a formality.” Joe knows people seeing him in another jersey feels wrong and will sting — because that’s a modicum of how he felt being tossed aside as “someone who isn’t going to play anyway.”
This is how he communicates that.
Would depend on his play.If this trade never happened and this off-season you found out that we signed NAW for $5M, would you find that to be good value? That’s what this boils down to.
*$5 million and two 2nd rounders.If this trade never happened and this off-season you found out that we signed NAW for $5M, would you find that to be good value? That’s what this boils down to.
Oh yeah. Forgot that part.*$5 million and two 2nd rounders.
No, but whatever.
We also had a use for those players.For those who think NAW will be in the rotation, it's worth noting that in their first games with the Jazz, Crowder played 28 minutes, Korver played 22 and Clarkson played 21. All three guys were traded for during the season and didn't have time to learn the system or get a few practices under their belt, Quin trusted them right away. In NAW's first game he played a minute and a half of garbage time when we were up almost 20 points, in a game that we were down two rotation players (Gobert and Gay) and another likely rotation player in House.
For those who think NAW will be in the rotation, it's worth noting that in their first games with the Jazz, Crowder played 28 minutes, Korver played 22 and Clarkson played 21. All three guys were traded for during the season and didn't have time to learn the system or get a few practices under their belt, Quin trusted them right away. In NAW's first game he played a minute and a half of garbage time when we were up almost 20 points, in a game that we were down two rotation players (Gobert and Gay) and another likely rotation player in House.
New theory:
They made this trade as a setup to dumping Clarkson if they can this off-season… even though they probably already have a better prospect for that role in JB. Or maybe this is them hedging on House leaving?
I don’t know. Still trying to make sense of it. His path to minutes is rough and most likely comes at the expense of someone else that is as or more deserving.
That second sentence has me head scratching.Good trade IMO. I like Hughes but I’m kinda doubting he puts it together. I remember Locke talking about how much we loved NAW in that draft, but he was too out of our reach
This is rookie NAW against us two years ago: 15 pts, 3 ast., 2 stls.
Lol what's the head scratching part?That second sentence has me head scratching.
Not sure about this, TBH. He just landed, probably didn't know half his new teammates' names. I wouldn't put much on rotations this game, but going forward it might mean something.From Andy Larsen's 'Tripple Team' article tonight about NAW
1- if we lose in the playoffs before the conference finals we likely move Conley or Bogey and you bet your sweet *** we will take less salary.Oh yeah. Forgot that part.
We just spent two second rounders and Ingles’ locker room presence to drop $4M this year. But we added $5M next year. That’s some great math, and we should be asking what it’s going to cost us to drop salary next year, because next year our baseline cap is $2M higher, and that’s with waiving Juancho. And we only have 10 guys under contract.
Earlier in the season the media guys threw out the wet blanket of how filling the 14th roster spot with a veteran would really cost us like $9M. So we’re going to have to 1) essentially stand pat with an older roster and 2) add three more people on the roster. His $5M will have collateral damage. Would be ironic if that collateral damage was not being able to bring back Joe. “Look, we all like Joe but Ryan doesn’t run a charity and bringing in Joe would cost $10M between salary and taxes and he’s 35 coming off a major injury.”