The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[Sardines]

It’s better to have it than not but this is frustrating. What was all the delay for? We could’ve given Ukraine this aid 6 months ago. It certainly didn’t help the GOP politically. It’s just really frustrating how our country is held hostage by a few losers in the House who are addicted to outrage porn on Fox News. If Fox News didn’t exist, this aid would’ve been approved long ago.

How much of politics is based on Fox News merely opposing what their perceived cultural and political enemies support?

Ukraine, vaccines, mail in voting, public education, all come to mind…

I agree that it is extraordinarily frustrating. Many of the very recent missile attacks that specifically targeted civilians, including a number of "double tap" missile attacks that are done specifically to kill first responders, could have been prevented if this aid had been delivered 6 months ago. That part is just horrible. What is even more frustrating, not because of the soldiers lives because in war it should be the soldiers who die, but because we delayed aid many Ukrainian soldiers died who absolutely did not need to. Russia has many many times the number of soldiers. Each Ukrainian soldier is worth 10 Russian soldiers or more, and I don't mean that in the positive, I mean that the cost to Ukraine to lose 1 soldier is more detrimental to their fight than it is to Russia if 10 or even 20 Russian soldiers die. Those soldier will not be there in future battles. Those soldiers will not benefit from this needlessly delayed aid.

Our money will not go as far now as it would have gone 6 months ago. Ukraine is on their back foot. This aid will help them hopefully dig back what they have been bleeding away for the last 6 months. We're all NBA fans, right? This is like if in the middle of the second quarter the refs just make up fouls and give your star player foul 3 and 4 before you even have time to get them out of the game. This delayed aid is like a make-up call that gives a bench guy his second foul.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Mike Johnson is just a few days out from his pilgrimage to Mar-A-Felony to meet Trump and he has flipped hard on this issue. I wonder if he came to the stark realization that the emperor has no clothes by having a one-on-one with the man.

No he didn't lol. Show me where he flipped please. You're literally lying. It's well documented that Trump is on the side of Johnson and they both agreed that loaning the money, was the correct path. You guys about literally everything.

The president would be authorized to set the terms of the loan to Ukraine and also be given the power to cancel it. Congress could override the cancellation but would have to generate enough votes to override a veto, a high bar considering how the two chambers are so evenly divided.

Johnson, as he seeks GOP support for the package, noted that former President Donald Trump has endorsed a “loan concept.”

What's inside the $95 billion House package focused on aiding Ukraine and Israel

Speaker Mike Johnson has unveiled a long-awaited package of bills that will provide military aid to Ukraine and Israel, replenish U.S. weapons systems and give humanitarian assistance to civilians in Gaza.

apnews.com

 

[SteakNEggs]

It’s better to have it than not but this is frustrating. What was all the delay for? We could’ve given Ukraine this aid 6 months ago. It certainly didn’t help the GOP politically. It’s just really frustrating how our country is held hostage by a few losers in the House who are addicted to outrage porn on Fox News. If Fox News didn’t exist, this aid would’ve been approved long ago.

How much of politics is based on Fox News merely opposing what their perceived cultural and political enemies support?

Ukraine, vaccines, mail in voting, public education, all come to mind…

Aren't you the one peddling literally bat s* crazy Qanon conspiracies that Christian Nationalist are going to turn America into Russia? Fox News is garbage but they're not pushing stuff that amazingly stupid. Turning an entire country into Russia in less than a year? Mind boggling stupid lol.

You know what's scarier than Fox News? People like you who openly say something is racist and then openly support that racism such as your racist President calling black people boy. That is known as a wolf in sheep's clothing. What's next with you? Who knows when you have no moral high grounds and openly support racism. By your own admittance. Again what's next? Bat s* crazy conspiracies meant to spread vile hate towards Christians? They're going to turn us into Russia? Lol Qanon

 

[fishonjazz]

Tom Cotton, Kari Lake show how much Trump, Republicans have normalized violent rhetoric

Republicans Kari Lake and Sen. Tom Cotton both spouted outrageous violent rhetoric this week, and nobody seems to care. Americans deserve better.

www.yahoo.com

One high-profile Republican, a sitting U.S. senator, suggested peaceful protesters should be thrown off bridges.

Another high-profile Republican, often mentioned as a possible vice presidential candidate, told supporters to “strap on a Glock” to prepare for this year’s presidential election.

It would be nice to report that each of these public figures, Sen. Tom Cotton and U.S. Senate candidate Kari Lake, respectively, faced bipartisan condemnation for their violent rhetoric. It would be reasonable, in a normal society, to assume such comments would bring a swift end to their political careers.

That’s where we should be as a nation – unwilling to put up with bellicose garbage babbled by opportunistic loons.



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[fishonjazz]

With one letter, Trump turned the Republican Party into an extortion racket

I'd like to congratulate Donald Trump on the speed with which he's turned the Republican Party into an extortion racket.

www.yahoo.com

I’d like to congratulate Donald Trump on the speed with which he’s turned the Republican Party into something resembling an extortion racket.

The Republican Party is now nothing but a Donald Trump piggy bank
He’s got his daughter-in-law Lara Trump in place at the top of the RNC pecking order, and she didn’t hold back detailing the committee’s singular focus: “Every single penny will go to the No. 1 and the only job of the RNC – that is electing Donald J. Trump as president of the United States and saving this country.”

In an April 15 letter, Trump’s campaign notified all Republican candidates that if they use the former president’s name, image or likeness on any campaign advertisements, they need to deliver at least 5% of the money they raise back to the aforementioned criminal defendant.



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[Bucknutz]

More and more people are waking up to what is happening to kids these days. I thought Bill did a great job on presenting a summary of the sexualization of children.


View: https://x.com/billmaher/status/1781526083210502503?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ

 

[fishonjazz]

More and more people are waking up to what is happening to kids these days. I thought Bill did a great job on presenting a summary of the sexualization of children.


View: https://x.com/billmaher/status/1781526083210502503?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ

Ya sadly at this point we shouldn't let our kids be in the entertainment industry, scouts, church, school, the neighbors house, their uncles or aunts house, etc etc.

Seems like there are sickos everywhere. Sucks to be a parent right now. I won't let my kid sleep over at anyone's house if I'm not there. And that sucks. I loved sleepovers when I was a kid and never had anything bad happen to me.

But I'm terrified of letting my daughter out of my sight. Even just to walk to her friends house down the street in the middle of the day.

I volunteer at her elementary school and there is a girl in her class (2nd grade) who had a vape at school this year. Same girl has a cell phone and takes selfies of herself posing in ways that alarm me (kissing faces and whatnot) and I gave her a little grief about it and advised her that it's something she shouldn't be doing and she replied "its just for my Snapchat"
Smh. Not a lot of kids her age have cell phone but a few do (which is too many imo) and a ton of them have smart watches that can take pictures and text and stuff.

Technology sucks. I'm gonna hold out as long as possible on letting my daughter get a phone or watch or whatever
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[SteakNEggs]

Seems like there are sickos everywhere.
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I might riot and rape some children later today though. Idk.

You should rape a bunch of women, too, so that some of them can have fun later getting an abortion.

I agree, it starts at home. Your admittance, not mine. I'm literally quoting you.. @The Thriller this type of behavior is now 100% acceptableand...funny to you guys. Huh fish?

 

[Bucknutz]

I agree, it starts at home. Your admittance, not mine. I'm literally quoting you.. @The Thriller this type of behavior is now 100% acceptableand...funny to you guys. Huh fish?

Seriously? He was giving you **** with that post. Maybe they would take you more seriously if you dont try to take an out of context post and use it for a personal hit on them.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Seriously? He was giving you **** with that post. Maybe they would take you more seriously if you dont try to take an out of context post and use it for a personal hit on them.

I personally don't find anything funny about child rape. Do you? Be honest... do you really think child rape is funny? Can you explain what's funny about that? I'll wait...

And this the same **** he has done to Trump. Taking blatant comments out of context. Right? Like fish posting a blatantly edited video of Trump saying bloodbath and there are good people.

If you want to make pedophilia a laughing matter that's on you. I'm not laughing. You can, you think raping children is hilarious, but that's you. Same side or not. Crying about me using DIRECT QUOTES....

 

[fishonjazz]

Seriously? He was giving you **** with that post. Maybe they would take you more seriously if you dont try to take an out of context post and use it for a personal hit on them.

Ya to be clear I have plenty of character flaws but raping children isn't actually one of them. Quite the contrary. Anyone who knows me knows how much I care about the well being of children and knows how good I am with them. My wife always tells me that I should have had a career of some kind that involves helping children.
I find that jazzy/steak brings out the worst in people. I never would have even made any of those posts if I would have just ignored him. Which is why I almost always do ignore him. He brings out the worst in me. (and others. Pretty sure he is the reason gameface doesn't post here anymore)
Have noticed one brow has pretty much stopped posting here. Wouldn't be surprised if jazz/steak played a role in that as well. I have taken extended breaks from jazzfanz after interactions with him myself.


A discussion with him is never a good idea, as I have learned. I have a goal to never have another discussion with him again.



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[SteakNEggs]

Ya to be clear I have plenty of character flaws but raping children isn't actually one of them. Quite the contrary. Anyone who knows me knows how much I care about the well being of children and knows how good I am with them. My wife always tells me that I should have had a career of some kind that involves helping children.
I find that jazzy/steak brings out the worst in people. I never would have even made any of those posts if I would have just ignored him. Which is why I almost always do ignore him. He brings out the worst in me. (and others. Pretty sure he is the reason gameface doesn't post here anymore)
Have noticed one brow has pretty much stopped posting here. Wouldn't be surprised if jazz/steak played a role in that as well. I have taken extended breaks from jazzfanz after interactions with him myself.


A discussion with him is never a good idea, as I have learned. I have a goal to never have another discussion with him again.



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How cowardly. Blaming me for your disgusting words. You even admit it's wrong like I'm calling you out on. How many times have you called others names like a cult?

Gameface(I could go off) has underlying problems who threatened to kill Trump, wished a painful death on me, and literally said I should be in jail for murder. You liked all of those post fish.

But explain why child rape is funny. It's a simple question.

 

[Bucknutz]

I personally don't find anything funny about child rape. Do you? Be honest... do you really think child rape is funny? Can you explain what's funny about that? I'll wait...

And this the same **** he has done to Trump. Taking blatant comments out of context. Right? Like fish posting a blatantly edited video of Trump saying bloodbath and there are good people.

If you want to make pedophilia a laughing matter that's on you. I'm not laughing. You can, you think raping children is hilarious, but that's you. Same side or not. Crying about me using DIRECT QUOTES....

No, I don’t find it funny. But there still can be jokes about the subject.

Here is Ricky Gervais doing a great job explaining it in this bit:

View: https://youtu.be/prPL8UPSyes?si=D03O1xh1Acl58cPz


They were using words to trigger you but it didn’t have any real value or meaning behind those words. They were not serious.

I’m not crying about it or upset about it. I get fired up when the left thinks having books that talk and show images about rape or sex and think it’s ok to keep them in elementary school libraries. You know real things that are happening.

Do I think Fish, Thriller or Sardines are raping children at home? No. I honestly don’t think those comments were even funny. But I understand why the said them.

There is a ton you can debate with these guys about their views; it’s just not productive when you take things out of context.

Context matters:

View: https://youtu.be/GZ3QHTpMZgQ?si=FeyXS9-tmQ0AnVNN

 

[SteakNEggs]

No, I don’t find it funny. But there still can be jokes about the subject.

Here is Ricky Gervais doing a great job explaining it in this bit:

View: https://youtu.be/prPL8UPSyes?si=D03O1xh1Acl58cPz


They were using words to trigger you but it didn’t have any real value or meaning behind those words. They were not serious.

I’m not crying about it or upset about it. I get fired up when the left thinks having books that talk and show images about rape or sex and think it’s ok to keep them in elementary school libraries. You know real things that are happening.

Do I think Fish, Thriller or Sardines are raping children at home? No. I honestly don’t think those comments were even funny. But I understand why the said them.

There is a ton you can debate with these guys about their views; it’s just not productive when you take things out of context.

Context matters:

View: https://youtu.be/GZ3QHTpMZgQ?si=FeyXS9-tmQ0AnVNN

So you admit they used child rape to troll me.... grown men... but suddenly @fishonjazz is the victim when I use his own trolling against him..................... it's ok to fish to troll but I can't use that trolling back at him? Funny how you didn't seem to care when fish started the trolling... right. Go back to that page. I was talking politics. These guys were trolling.

https://jazzfanz.com/threads/the-of...e-ukraine-thread.158860/page-116#post-2419164

This is a literal troll crying because I used his very own trolling against him. A typical bully.

Now show me(no you particularly) where I am blatantly trolling like fish, sardines, thriller, and log on my link above. These guys are the trolls not and now they play the victim when I point that out.

 

[fishonjazz]

No, I don’t find it funny. But there still can be jokes about the subject.

Here is Ricky Gervais doing a great job explaining it in this bit:

View: https://youtu.be/prPL8UPSyes?si=D03O1xh1Acl58cPz


They were using words to trigger you but it didn’t have any real value or meaning behind those words. They were not serious.

I’m not crying about it or upset about it. I get fired up when the left thinks having books that talk and show images about rape or sex and think it’s ok to keep them in elementary school libraries. You know real things that are happening.

Do I think Fish, Thriller or Sardines are raping children at home? No. I honestly don’t think those comments were even funny. But I understand why the said them.

There is a ton you can debate with these guys about their views; it’s just not productive when you take things out of context.

Context matters:

View: https://youtu.be/GZ3QHTpMZgQ?si=FeyXS9-tmQ0AnVNN

I love Bill Burr

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[fishonjazz]

As always @Bucknutz, its a trap

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[LogGrad98]

But I'm terrified of letting my daughter out of my sight. Even just to walk to her friends house down the street in the middle of the day.

I get this but it's sad we've fallen this far as a society. This is the one thing I'm not worried about in regards to my 10 year old granddaughter. The rate of stranger abduction is still completely flat statistically, and has been for going on 6 decades since they have kept more accurate statistics, and is incredibly low. Most of the terrible **** kids face comes from people we know. Unfortunately.

 

[LogGrad98]

More and more people are waking up to what is happening to kids these days. I thought Bill did a great job on presenting a summary of the sexualization of children.


View: https://x.com/billmaher/status/1781526083210502503?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ

One of Bill's best imo. Every now and then he nails it and this is one of those times. Like @fishonjazz I'm worried about the pressures kids face today, which are much stronger and much more dangerous imo than the pressures I faced at the same age. And no, I don't think this is just another case of every generation thinking the next is messed up. The tools available, like social media, and societal norms and pressures are creating a singularly destructive atmosphere for our kids if we don't watch out.

 

[SteakNEggs]

As always @Bucknutz, its a trap

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So you admit they used child rape to troll me.... grown men... but suddenly @fishonjazz is the victim when I use his own trolling against him..................... it's ok to fish to troll but I can't use that trolling back at him? Funny how you didn't seem to care when fish started the trolling... right. Go back to that page. I was talking politics. These guys were trolling.

https://jazzfanz.com/threads/the-of...e-ukraine-thread.158860/page-116#post-2419164

This is a literal troll crying because I used his very own trolling against him. A typical bully.

Now show me(no you particularly) where I am blatantly trolling like fish, sardines, thriller, and log on my link above. These guys are the trolls not and now they play the victim when I point that out.

Still waiting.

 

[LogGrad98]

Ya to be clear I have plenty of character flaws but raping children isn't actually one of them. Quite the contrary. Anyone who knows me knows how much I care about the well being of children and knows how good I am with them. My wife always tells me that I should have had a career of some kind that involves helping children.
I find that jazzy/steak brings out the worst in people. I never would have even made any of those posts if I would have just ignored him. Which is why I almost always do ignore him. He brings out the worst in me. (and others. Pretty sure he is the reason gameface doesn't post here anymore)
Have noticed one brow has pretty much stopped posting here. Wouldn't be surprised if jazz/steak played a role in that as well. I have taken extended breaks from jazzfanz after interactions with him myself.


A discussion with him is never a good idea, as I have learned. I have a goal to never have another discussion with him again.



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I put him on ignore long ago and I wish more people would. One way to get a troll to go away is to ignore them. But so many people engage he can't help but whack off thinking of all the people he pisses off here. It's undoubtedly his sexual release. The more vulgar and pointed the attack he can make, the harder his little pin-prick gets. He needs to be banned for life, imo, but since that won't happen either I'll just ignore him and his fellow deviants. I wish we took malicious and vile trolling more seriously here. I know we try to be family friendly here and imo that's way way worse than if a kid accidentally saw an F-word now and then. As if they don't hear that every single day from their friends and even family members. But the **** that these trolls spew at people is intended to cause personal affront and pain and is vile and venomous and shouldn't be tolerated.


Cue the new attacks on me now. Pretty sure he'll call me a child-raping pedophile or something equally egregious. He can't help himself, it's like an addiction for that piece of human garbage.