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Dumb Bloke said:
Jazz would have been better than 15th in defense if they had a big who could honestly spread the floor for Kanter. Packing the paint with two bigs was a defensive liability that gave up lots of fast break points allowed. You don't see OKC having this problem with Kanter.
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Nobody gives a **** about that guy who doesn't play here anymore, so have a nice cup of STFU.
 
Dumb Bloke said:
Jazz would have been better than 15th in defense if they had a big who could honestly spread the floor for Kanter. Packing the paint with two bigs was a defensive liability that gave up lots of fast break points allowed. You don't see OKC having this problem with Kanter.
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Actually, they do. OKC went from 101 drtg to 106.4 drtg with Kanter. That's a change from 9th to 27th.
 
Dumb Bloke said:
Jazz would have been better than 15th in defense if they had a big who could honestly spread the floor for Kanter. Packing the paint with two bigs was a defensive liability that gave up lots of fast break points allowed. You don't see OKC having this problem with Kanter.
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Someone must've forgot to read this gay, I mean guy a bedtime story.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
https://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612760/stats/advanced/

Easy, since it's a pre/post all-star break split.

Though truthfully, there is one game OKC played post all star break without Kanter, so whatever happened that game affects the numbers.

EDIT:

DRTG for the post all star game that Kanter didn't play was 86.8.

So yeah.
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Thanks. Here's a good find from there as well.

With Kanter on the court, OKC has DRtg of 109.7 compared to 103.4 when he's off the court. That's not surprising. But the fun one is that their ORtg is 109.0 with Kanter on the court compared to 108.5 with him off the court. They're a little better on offense with Kanter on the floor, but significantly worse on defense.
 
nightmare3983 said:
Thanks. Here's a good find from there as well.

With Kanter on the court, OKC has DRtg of 109.7 compared to 103.4 when he's off the court. That's not surprising. But the fun one is that their ORtg is 109.0 with Kanter on the court compared to 108.5 with him off the court. They're a little better on offense with Kanter on the floor, but significantly worse on defense.
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And that's the point that I think will become more obvious is they decide to sign him. While he's good on offense, whose touches is he going to take away? I don't see him being an option over KD and Westbrook if both are in the game. He would probably be a better offensive option than Ibaka in that lineup, so that means he is the 3rd option. He may occasionally get a 20 point game in that lineup, but I wouldn't see it happening very often. And if he's not scoring 20 points a game, what is the point in having him? His defense is that bad. Having the other defenders cover for his deficiencies only makes sense if he's a consistent scorer in that lineup ... which I don't see happening.

Off the bench, he would be a great option for them, but OKC isn't going to pay him that much to come off the bench and he doesn't want that role either.
 
b_line said:
The main thing I remember about Dennis Lindsay when he would talk about Ty was that he was asking for improvement defensively. He didn't ask to be the best team in the league defensively, not even top ten, just moving in the right direction. For Quin Snyder to take a team from last place defensively to top ten in the same season is insane. We have ourselves a coach and a few franchise players.
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Good post. I missplaced my dictionary...could someone help me out and look up the definition for the word "Vindicated" please? I need to verify something. TIA.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Actually, they do. OKC went from 101 drtg to 106.4 drtg with Kanter. That's a change from 9th to 27th.
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OKCs fast break points allowed didnt change with Kanter and thats after losing four of there best players like Sexual Favors has pointed out repeatedly that you ignore. Try explaining that away.
 
freakazoid said:
Nobody gives a **** about that guy who doesn't play here anymore, so have a nice cup of STFU.
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Hey angry old man. If nobody cares why are 4 out of 5 topics on Enes? I dont know if your old brain remembers but we just traded Kanter and got ripped off hard core. Its kind of a big deal.
 
Dumb Bloke said:
OKCs fast break points allowed didnt change with Kanter and thats after losing four of there best players like Sexual Favors has pointed out repeatedly that you ignore. Try explaining that away.
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Why does it matter the method in which OKC is a worse team defensively with Kanter? If what you say is true, then OKC's half court defense with Kanter on the floor is even worse than the numbers say.
 
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