It is obvious that Fess size is a factor. I have seen him make opponents take notice when he is in there. Just let the kid play if he is sucking up big time then take him out and talk to him about what he is doing wrong. Then after a rest give him a chance, don't just banish him to the bench for 3 weeks.
DWill on Fes
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Ya, that piece of fiction must be frustrating. Sloan does not reward good performance. He rewards, well, I'm not sure what. Players who practice hard or something.
Finally, a player calls out Sloan for not playing Fes. I will say it again, I love the Utah Jazz. For my 20 year anniversary my wife got me utah jazz tickets, so we traveled to Utah to watch the game against NOH. For some reason all the bigs were injured and Sloan had no choice but to play Fes. What I saw and what I could not believe others did not was a guy who could dominate a game without doing anything. The size Fes brings to the court is just intimidating. Guards stop driving, bigs start passing out of the post, players miss layups trying to avoid him. Now DW is correct you have to live with some boneheaded plays, but its worth it. In the NOH game he actually passed to player standing out of bounds. SO WHAT.
To answer you the real question, you bench Jefferson. I know, everyone will ignore the rest of this post and focus on this suggestion, but I think Jefferson is the key to winning it all. Jefferson could anchor the second unit, where all they have to do is pass it to him on the low block and let him work. The second unit has been good on defense, but lacks an offensive punch. It's not like a demotion for Jefferson, he will still play more minutes than Fes, but I like the idea of changing the starting line-up to improve our starts and I like the idea of a major scoring threat facing second team defenses.
To answer you the real question, you bench Jefferson. I know, everyone will ignore the rest of this post and focus on this suggestion, but I think Jefferson is the key to winning it all. Jefferson could anchor the second unit, where all they have to do is pass it to him on the low block and let him work. The second unit has been good on defense, but lacks an offensive punch. It's not like a demotion for Jefferson, he will still play more minutes than Fes, but I like the idea of changing the starting line-up to improve our starts and I like the idea of a major scoring threat facing second team defenses.
Gyp Rosetti
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Do we start Millsap or Jefferson? I'd say Paul. He's earned it. And Jefferson is a black hole once he gets the ball anyway and won't disrupt our second unit nearly as much as our first.
jazzrule
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Isn't this what you and others said about Millsap?
And his defense and rebounding have steeply declined as it has become more and more important for him to not pick up cheap fouls. Obviously his offense has improved immensely, though.
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NAOS
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I'm not saying I endorse it, but there is a pretty strong argument for starting Big Fes and moving Big Al to the second unit.
1. A starting lineup of DW/CJ/AK/Millsap/Fes would be able to run the flex somewhat like in years past. And, with a bit of time, could be similarly efficient. Fes is out there for his lane clogging, rebounding, and defense -- something those previous offensive squads sorely lacked.
2. We're all seeing what Jefferson is capable of; he can change the game when he steps out there for the second unit. EXAMPLES: Manu came off the bench for the Spurs for so many years because he was able to institute his own brand of basketball; before Manu, it was Bobby Jackson for the Kings who could do the same. It's like a pitcher setting up a hitter for an off-speed pitch. Popovich used this to perfection. And, yes, Al would still get in the neighborhood of 30 minutes a game.
let me anticipate a rebuttal: I AM AWARE THAT SLOAN AIN'T NO POPOVICH.
1. A starting lineup of DW/CJ/AK/Millsap/Fes would be able to run the flex somewhat like in years past. And, with a bit of time, could be similarly efficient. Fes is out there for his lane clogging, rebounding, and defense -- something those previous offensive squads sorely lacked.
2. We're all seeing what Jefferson is capable of; he can change the game when he steps out there for the second unit. EXAMPLES: Manu came off the bench for the Spurs for so many years because he was able to institute his own brand of basketball; before Manu, it was Bobby Jackson for the Kings who could do the same. It's like a pitcher setting up a hitter for an off-speed pitch. Popovich used this to perfection. And, yes, Al would still get in the neighborhood of 30 minutes a game.
let me anticipate a rebuttal: I AM AWARE THAT SLOAN AIN'T NO POPOVICH.
I'm a big fan of Fes but he looks bad 75% of the times. Poor hands, guards drive up the middle on him all the time, barely gets blocks for a man of his size/strength, but that said, I love seeing him call for the ball in the post!! I really want him to succeed here (played really well as Memo's understudy vs DEN) but the only way I see that happening is if we trade Millsap (Al = higher upside/potential, plus his & Fes' length would be nasty!!).
The only drawback in trading Millsap is that's the tipping point on keeping DWill (extended), trading a hard working "friend" for a player (SG) who's a stud or dud.
The only drawback in trading Millsap is that's the tipping point on keeping DWill (extended), trading a hard working "friend" for a player (SG) who's a stud or dud.
unluckyseventeen
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Fes is as hot and cold of a dude as you'll find in the league. Sometimes he gets minutes and racks up fouls on consecutive plays. Sometimes he comes in and plays well. The dude has potential but he's wildly inconsistent. You never know what the hell you're gonna get out of him, and him singlehandedly putting the other team in the bonus has got to grind the coaching staff's ****.
Thee Jazz Fan
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That's exactly it his deffensive philosophy is to foul.