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Zach Lowe tells Utah (and a couple other teams) what to do in free agency

bigmike said:
Didn't read the thread. But read Lowe's commentary. That's why he's writing about the NBA and not running the team. Nothing cripples a team more than blowing money.

Not his best work.
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The cap is going to jump something like 61% over the next 2 years. Spending money now is smart because salaries are only going to increase. This is why you are posting on a message board and not getting paid to write about the NBA.:p
 
NUMBERICA said:
Hate to break it to everyone, but the Jazz might not even make the playoffs next year. Some/most of you are talking about having too much talent while in the same breath talking about allocating minutes for Joe Ingles, Elijah Millsap, and Trey Burke while letting an unprecedented opportunity to add real assets rot on the vine? Step back for a second and honestly appraise the situation here.
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I've stepped back far enough to see that even with a terrible first half to the season, Utah ended up with about the same number of road wins as they had when they went to the WCF. Utah turned a corner last year in a big way IMO. I'm betting that trend continues. I'll also go so far as to predict they will be closer to playing for HC than missing the playoffs.
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Having said that, there's no such thing as too much talent. Stack the deck and let the cream rise to the top.
 
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I feel like it's pretty risky for the Jazz to rest on their laurels and not go out and try to sign a talented player.

Yes, I love Quinn's confidence in his ability to maximize and teach talent, but we really don't know how good guys like Hood and Burks can become. We don't know their ceilings, so why not go out and add another piece to compete with those guys as insurance?

Worst case: You offend someone. They quit trying and feel "cheated". You trade them for assets if they don't prevail over other players who are trying and succeeding over them. We don't have any players on our roster who have untradeable contracts. If Burks becomes disillusioned with his playing time, he is one a tradeable contract and other teams would give up assets for him.

Best case: The players compete and raise each other's levels. You play the guys who deserve minutes and the locker-room is strong enough to not turn on each other. Both Burks and the new wing (Middleton/Green/Whoever) are all doing great? Plays Burks at backup PG. Start a new trend of not needing a backup PG. Will it work? Who knows. I'd rather try that than not sign anyone and just roll with Burke, who may still be the same player (again, who knows so why not sign talent as insurance?).
 
Cy said:
I feel like it's pretty risky for the Jazz to rest on their laurels and not go out and try to sign a talented player.

Yes, I love Quinn's confidence in his ability to maximize and teach talent, but we really don't know how good guys like Hood and Burks can become. We don't know their ceilings, so why not go out and add another piece to compete with those guys as insurance?

Worst case: You offend someone. They quit trying and feel "cheated". You trade them for assets if they don't prevail over other players who are trying and succeeding over them. We don't have any players on our roster who have untradeable contracts. If Burks becomes disillusioned with his playing time, he is one a tradeable contract and other teams would give up assets for him.

Best case: The players compete and raise each other's levels. You play the guys who deserve minutes and the locker-room is strong enough to not turn on each other. Both Burks and the new wing (Middleton/Green/Whoever) are all doing great? Plays Burks at backup PG. Start a new trend of not needing a backup PG. Will it work? Who knows. I'd rather try that than not sign anyone and just roll with Burke, who may still be the same player (again, who knows so why not sign talent as insurance?).
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Spot on IMO. Does anyone think GS shouldn't have traded for Iggy because they already had Barnes and shouldn't risk hurting his feelings? Stack the deck and make these guys earn their playing time.
 
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♪alt13 said:
I'll ask here: can we offer Green 4 yrs 16/14/12/12?
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I'm pretty sure you can only raise or lower in 4.5% increments. A signing bonus could be added as a "poison pill" though (15% of contract), and it can be required to pay up front. Portland tried poison pilling us both on Millsap and Matthews, it got them Matthews.
 
I see the play vets crowd is back. The grass is not always greener on the other side. After one year with a new exciting developmental coach, Jazz fans are ready to trade anyone and bring in overpaid vets to play over our young guys. I'll remember this when we can't sign Exum, Gobert or Hood. Bringing in Middleton on a Max contract when you already have Burks, Hood, Exum and Hayward isn't very smart. How much better is Middleton than those guys? If you bring in Middleton then you have got to trade someone.

I just think you have to be careful. Spending money just because you have it doesn't mean you have to spend it. If you are going to spend it then spend it on a player who is obviously better than the players you have. Now if the Jazz could get Butler or Leonard then I say go for it. I am not as big as a fan as others are when it comes to Middleton. Granted I haven't watched him too often either.
 
cowhide said:
I see the play vets crowd is back. The grass is not always greener on the other side. After one year with a new exciting developmental coach, Jazz fans are ready to trade anyone and bring in overpaid vets to play over our young guys. I'll remember this when we can't sign Exum, Gobert or Hood. Bringing in Middleton on a Max contract when you already have Burks, Hood, Exum and Hayward isn't very smart. How much better is Middleton than those guys? If you bring in Middleton then you have got to trade someone.

I just think you have to be careful. Spending money just because you have it doesn't mean you have to spend it. If you are going to spend it then spend it on a player who is obviously better than the players you have. Now if the Jazz could get Butler or Leonard then I say go for it. I am not as big as a fan as others are when it comes to Middleton. Granted I haven't watched him too often either.
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Middleton is basically the same age as Burks (Middleton is a month younger) and has 1 year less experience in the NBA.

Middleton is a better shooter and a better defender than Burks.

I dont think you have to trade any of the wings.

Bring in Middleton, cut Booker.

Play Hayward/Middleton spot minutes at the 4.

Play Burks spot minutes at PG.

That should give our wings enough minutes to go around. Basically allowing us to play an oversized back-court version of small ball.
 
teh argument for trying Tobias Harris is intriguing because physically he is suited to be a small ball PF.
 
Cy said:
Middleton is basically the same age as Burks (Middleton is a month younger) and has 1 year less experience in the NBA.

Middleton is a better shooter and a better defender than Burks.

I dont think you have to trade any of the wings.

Bring in Middleton, cut Booker.

Play Hayward/Middleton spot minutes at the 4.

Play Burks spot minutes at PG.

That should give our wings enough minutes to go around. Basically allowing us to play an oversized back-court version of small ball.
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We have Gobert and Favors. Playing "small ball" means taking them off the court. Screw that. And screw Middleton as well. Let the Bucks max him. He couldn't carry Gordon Heyward's jock.
 
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