K.J. McDaniels?

[Hotdog]

I can't over how bad the idea of signing McDaniels to a 3 year 20 million dollar contract is.

Like it blows my mind someone wants to pay a 2nd year player who was a 2nd round draft pick, who is 22 years old, who just shot <40% from the field and <30% from deep 6.5 million dollars per year.

Like WTF.

WC, I have to agree with Cy... this is pretty horrible use of money. KJ hasn't shown any offensive game whatsoever and he cannot even knock down open shots. He's not worth that money.

He's a better offensive player than those numbers suggest.

Lol @you guys not being good scouts. Hayward shot terrible percentages then it came around.

KJ McDaniels is gonna be at least a decent player. He's good defender and has really good athleticism.

You have to be able to know how to buy low on someone before they blow up. That's how you get ahead. If you can't find sleepers you'll constantly be chasing talent, and paying out the rear end.

You two are the Kings of no foresight. Prisoners of the current moment.

Hey Exum was pretty terrible last year. I guess he'll never get better.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Dude, stfu. That contract will look so ****ing puny in a year. Lol this coming from the guy who wants to give 16 mil a year to Danny Green and Khris Middleton.

Plus we could probably get him for less.

Yes, I would give a lot of money to a guy who is one of the best defenders/shooters in the NBA and has the NBA Finals record for 3 pointers. I'm not even sure I would give him the max, but I'd rather max him than give a scrub 6.5 million a year.

As far as Middleton, again, one of the best shooters/defenders in the NBA and is only 23.

These guys are proven producers with room for growth within a young team.

McDaniels is a scrub who is worse than our current scrubs.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He's a better offensive player than those numbers suggest.

Lol @you guys not being good scouts. Hayward shot terrible percentages then it came around.

KJ McDaniels is gonna be at least a decent player. He's good defender and has really good athleticism.

You have to be able to know how to buy low on someone before they blow up. That's how you get ahead. If you can't find sleepers you'll constantly be chasing talent, and paying out the rear end.

You two are the Kings of no foresight. Prisoners of the current moment.

Hey Exum was pretty terrible last year. I guess he'll never get better.

Buying low = paying McDaniels 6.5 million a year?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

FOH.

Damn, some Jazz writer likes KJ McDaniels. Offer him a contract pronto!

 

[Elizah Huge]

If McDaniels is to sign an offer sheet with someone else, the maximum that the first season can be worth is $5.46 million (the mid-level exception for 2015-16), and the maximum the second season can be worth is $5.7 million (the mid-level exception plus 4.5 percent). If a team chooses to give him that much money in the first two seasons, they will then have opportunity to give him a much bigger salary jump in the third season.

Still, a max seems unlikely for McDaniels. As mentioned above, he's having a good -- not great -- rookie season. Because of that, a more comparable player might be Wes Matthews, who currently plays for Portland after signing an offer sheet in 2010 for five years, $32 million (slightly less than the full mid-level exception, making this an Arenas-compliant deal that didn't take advantage of its salary leaps) after averaging a similar 9.4 points per game in his rookie season with the Jazz.

However, there are some distinguishing factors here that make the situations different. First, five-year deals are now outlawed by the CBA for non-full max players. Second, Matthews had a 59 true-shooting percentage compared to McDaniels' 50 true-shooting percentage, meaning he was considerably more efficient as a shooter and a much easier to fit on offense. Also, the Blazers were able to insert a large signing bonus in the first year to dissuade the cash-strapped Jazz from matching the deal, something an opposing team will be unable to utilize due to Philadelphia's barren cap sheet.

But on the plus side for McDaniels, he does have the aforementioned spectre of TV money in his favor. Could a team decide to utilize the Arenas provision and give him a big deal? Would a team decide a $10 million third year (or even fourth as well) is worth it? Remember, they would only be on the hook for a cap hit of $7 million if they signed McDaniels to a three-year, $21 million deal, which isn't really all that different from the $5.4 million they would pay him anyway. An offer like this -- above and beyond the mid-level exception -- would also take teams that only have the MLE to use and don't have $7 million in cap space out of the running. So it could behoove someone to take advantage of the Arenas rule, but only slightly in order to corner the market.

The most we could offer him on a two year deal is 10-11 mil anyways. Seems like a great deal to me, especially with the new cap.

 

[Hotdog]

Buying low = paying McDaniels 6.5 million a year?

I didn't say that amount, but with the new CBA, in two years, that won't look bad at all, especially if he exceeds expectations.

If you pay a guy like Green 14 mil or whatever, you are praying that he can at least be as good as he was, with a small window before he regresses because of age, and no upside.

If you go young, you are gambling with lower money, with a lot of upside.

Mcdaniels is 22, but he was a rookie, he could definitely and probably will improve.

Where was Green when he was 22 and how good was he?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Lol Al-Farouq ****ing Aminu got 4-years 30 mil. 2 years 10.5 mil for McDaniels is nothing.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lol Al-Farouq ****ing Aminu got 4-years 30 mil. 2 years 10.5 mil for McDaniels is nothing.

Aminu is way better than McDaniels.

Aminu can play small ball 4. While I agree it's an overpay, Aminu at 7.5 per > KJ at 5.25 per year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I didn't say that amount, but with the new CBA, in two years, that won't look bad at all, especially if he exceeds expectations.

If you pay a guy like Green 14 mil or whatever, you are praying that he can at least be as good as he was, with a small window before he regresses because of age, and no upside.

If you go young, you are gambling with lower money, with a lot of upside.

Mcdaniels is 22, but he was a rookie, he could definitely and probably will improve.

Where was Green when he was 22 and how good was he?

Uhh why is Danny Green going to regress? Is he going to suddenly not be an elite shooter? I'm confused. last time I checked, 22 year old scrubs don't win championships.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Aminu is way better than McDaniels.

Aminu can play small ball 4. While I agree it's an overpay, Aminu at 7.5 per > KJ at 5.25 per year.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Aminu's career average is 6.4 PPG in 5 seasons on 28% from three. McDaniels averaged 7.9 in his rookie season on 29% from three. Dude you just keep throwing **** at the wall and hoping it sticks.

 

[Hotdog]

It happens every year. Players break out, and a lot of them you don't see coming.

Did anyone see Kris Middleton becoming max? People might have thought he was decent, but none thought max.

KJ could be one of those guys you snag up before people know what happened.

Gotta have balls.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

With Green you are paying for the effect of spacing to benefit your drivers and big men. That isn't going away. Green has at least 4 more years of high level production.