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How Dante's injury could impact the Jazz future

One of the reasons we decided not to go for broke in this year's free agency is the fact that we were not going to be contenders either way and that by getting starting level PG it would stunt Dante's progress and would take minutes away from him. I thought the timing was absolutely perfect to let him grow into his role while we keep fortifying our identity around lengthy stifling defense(with Exum and Gobert being two of the key pieces in the paint and on the perimeter respectively). At the same time we were a winning team even with Dante on the floor last year and his progress was supposed to keep us in the fight for playoff spots and possibly we could even get in there(we still might).

This injury is absolutely horrible timing-wise. It screws up not only Dante's development, but also the team building and team plan. This 2015/2016 season was supposed to be one more season of internal growth and improvement without the full pressure of playoff pursuit and the main part of that internal growth was supposed to be Dante and him getting to a point where he's useful not only on defense but also on offense. It was supposed to be the year that gives us a better idea of what we can expect from Exum in the future years.

Now we are left hanging in the air. The whole team was already waiting for the PG spot to catch-up with the rest of the team. And that was acceptable because we weren't going to be contenders this season anyways. Now not only there is no chance of the PG core to catch up with the rest of the team, but it's very possible our main PG-piece will be taking a short-term step back when he returns one year in the future. This would mean in the year Hayward can opt out, Exum will be returning from his injury and we will NEED to show some serious potential to contend in order to have a good chance at keeping Hayward.

Now what are the options we have to consider if we think Exum won't be ready to tangibly contribute in year 3?
Do we draft another PG next year and do we think he'd be more capable of contributing than Exum returning from ACL surgery? Do we make a run at some high-level PG either in FA(Mike Conley will be FA and Jazz will have 40-45 million to spend next summer - yeah, I know it's not very realistic target since about 25 teams will have capspace to offer him max, but still putting it out there as an option) or in a trade so Exum won't be pressured to perform right away at extremely high level coming back from an ACL reconstruction and so he can be eased back into the team while learning from a vet PG? Do we get a stop-gap PG next season? Or even this season? Should we be thinking about moving Hayward if he gives any indications that he will likely explore FA and won't be returning to Utah before his contract expires so we can at least get something for him? Those are all question that the FO would need to consider.
 
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I need to change my boxers after hearing the notion of Conley signing here.

We could be so ****ing good with him at the point. He will be 29 though next October. Not sure how to feel about that.
 
^Agreed, stitches. This is a difficult situation for the FO, who now either needs to put even more resources into the PG position (on top of #5, #14, & #21 picks) in order to compete & hopefully increase our chances of retaining Hayward long-term or stand pat & hope that our current PG's are enough to get us into the playoffs &/or that Exum returns (at least close) to 100%. I think moving Hayward (given that the return is good enough to make it worth doing) if the team doesn't appear playoff caliber by this upcoming trade deadline (so as to maximize his trade value) may need to be seriously considered. Glad DL is the one making these decisions, as they are difficult ones & vital to the long-term future of this team.
 
Mike Conley is kind of a pipe-dream since there will be a ton of teams willing to pay him max or close to max. On the other hand the option I'm beginning to like more and more and more is George Hill. He has 2 more years on his contract and will be perfect stop-gap/vet option for us. I liked him before Exum's injury and I absolutely love him right now. I think if we can get him for a first rounder and Trey Burke or something of that sort, I'd do it.
 
Locke is great at finding stats that fit his current opinion on the team. His current opinion on the team is always the company line that they want to push. ALWAYS. And he will find #'s to fit the new company line as soon as it changes. This is the guy that was loving Kanter till he was traded then he had #'s to show he's not worth it. While he was here he had #'s to show he was a good fit and deserved his minutes. His stats are virtually worthless because he only hunts down the ones that back his standing. And dismisses any that don't, until they serve his purpose that is.
There is no doubt you're going to get some bias. Locke does work for the Jazz. But I don't think they all sit around in a room and tell him what to say. I think he likes the players personally and wants to say positive things about them. I think he liked Kanter too. He burned Kanter because Kanter was a dick when he left town. I'm not aware of any other player that he's done that with and to be fair, none of the other sports writers who travel with the team behave any differently. Their jobs depend upon access to the players and coaches. They can't afford to get on their bad side.
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You guys all act like it's some big coordinated conspiracy. You're entitled to your opinions, but I just think that's absurd. Cherry picking stats? That's like the national pastime on this board. No one is going to believe Trey is a great defender based on a few stats. They are more likely to conclude Gobert and Favors can make anybody look good. I just think Locke is one of the hardest working media guys in the league. Sometimes he can be a little irritating, but I appreciate the effort and the information he provides. I also think some posters have a personal dislike for him so they use any excuse to blast him.
 
^Agreed, stitches. This is a difficult situation for the FO, who now either needs to put even more resources into the PG position (on top of #5, #14, & #21 picks) in order to compete & hopefully increase our chances of retaining Hayward long-term or stand pat & hope that our current PG's are enough to get us into the playoffs &/or that Exum returns (at least close) to 100%. I think moving Hayward (given that the return is good enough to make it worth doing) if the team doesn't appear playoff caliber by this upcoming trade deadline (so as to maximize his trade value) may need to be seriously considered. Glad DL is the one making these decisions, as they are difficult ones & vital to the long-term future of this team.

Yeah, the FO is in a really ****ty position right now. I would say it's pretty hard to navigate this one and I don't really have an answer that I'm 100% comfortable with. Maybe the George Hill one comes the closest to it, but we will be losing assets in order to get it done :(
 
Yeah, the FO is in a really ****ty position right now. I would say it's pretty hard to navigate this one and I don't really have an answer that I'm 100% comfortable with. Maybe the George Hill one comes the closest to it, but we will be losing assets in order to get it done :(
What about beverly or holiday? Any chance at getting them?
 
Mike Conley is kind of a pipe-dream since there will be a ton of teams willing to pay him max or close to max. On the other hand the option I'm beginning to like more and more and more is George Hill. He has 2 more years on his contract and will be perfect stop-gap/vet option for us. I liked him before Exum's injury and I absolutely love him right now. I think if we can get him for a first rounder and Trey Burke or something of that sort, I'd do it.

As great as Conley would be on this team, I agree that he is highly unlikely to willingly to come to Utah if we aren't already legitimate contenders (& in order to become that we would likely have to had to already have acquired a starting caliber PG in which case it wouldn't make sense to bring in Conley). As far as Hill, I also agree that he is almost a perfect candidate as his contract extends beyond next year (which serves as insurance in the event that Exum is unable to contribute a year from now) & he is a solid veteran who would assist in Exum's development while helping the team win now (& the following year). Unfortunately, I think it would likely take more than what you suggested in order to acquire him as IND is likely looking to be competitive in a weak EC & doesn't have a readily available replacement (nor do we in order to offer in return). Even if the price is (reasonably) steep, he could ultimately be worth it tho.
 
What about beverly or holiday? Any chance at getting them?

Beverley just signed new contract, I don't know if they'd be willing to move him without needing to move him. They are not into tax, so there is really no need to get rid off a useful rotation player when trying to contend, especially when they don't know what will happen with Lawson.

Similar with Holiday - they just got a new coach and unless that coach absolutely in advance doesn't think he can work with that guy, I don't see them moving him. He's their starting PG when healthy and he's pretty good. The biggest problem with him is he's injury prone... so... does it make sense even for us to get a stop-gap PG and replacement for an injured player who himself can't stay on the floor much? I don't know... It's worth considering for sure.

I'm more in favor of the Beverley idea, if he's available, but I doubt he would be.
 
Yeah, the FO is in a really ****ty position right now. I would say it's pretty hard to navigate this one and I don't really have an answer that I'm 100% comfortable with. Maybe the George Hill one comes the closest to it, but we will be losing assets in order to get it done :(

I don't think the Jazz can afford to give up nice assets for a guy that's pushing 30.(remember the nets trade) The Jazz still have to think long term while trying to win now. I don't think Hill is the answer. We need a guy that will peak with our team not before it.
 
I don't think the Jazz can afford to give up nice assets for a guy that's pushing 30.(remember the nets trade) The Jazz still have to think long term while trying to win now. I don't think Hill is the answer. We need a guy that will peak with our team not before it.

I think it would actually be great. Go get Hill so he can be a vet to this young team, he'll be a good piece in the starting lineup as well. He can help Exum once he's back from injury next year, then in 2 or 3 year when our guys should be peaking Exum can step in and be an important piece.
 
I don't think the Jazz can afford to give up nice assets for a guy that's pushing 30.(remember the nets trade) The Jazz still have to think long term while trying to win now. I don't think Hill is the answer. We need a guy that will peak with our team not before it.

We are not talking about giving up too much. It would most probably be Burke+one first rounder(probably lottery protected). You also have to weigh in the effect it will have on our chance to keep Hayward/showing him how good we can be with a good PG/.
 
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