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3-wing lineups are a bandaid + we shouldn't wait for Dante

fishonjazz said:
I was all about baking the cake...... Except for the pg position.

I think the cake baking was more in reference to all the wings that were being talked about (danny green, demarre carroll, etc)
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no. that's revisionist. I don't remember reading a single post by a Cakk Baker which singled out one position as editable.
 
I'm sure DL has turned over every rock and kicked a ton of tires looking for a better solution at PG. I'll bet he started the process the day after Exum got hurt. He knows what is out there right now and at what price. Maybe that changes after teams get through the pre-season and start looking at their 15-man rosters. There might be some vets teams are willing to let go as their 1st or 2nd year players show promise. I would bet a move will be made at some point. But there simply might not be a viable option (i.e. a PG at a reasonable price) on the market until the trade deadline.
 
NAOS said:
no. that's revisionist. I don't remember reading a single post by a Cakk Baker which singled out one position as editable.
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I guarantee I did many many times. I was a huge cake bake supporter but always said that I would be happy to upgrade the pg situation. I have been a Burke hater since the day he was drafted and I have criticized dante as much as anyone.
Trust me, I was fine with changing the cake ingredient at the pg position
 
fishonjazz said:
I guarantee I did many many times. I was a huge cake bake supporter but always said that I would be happy to upgrade the pg situation. I have been a Burke hater since the day he was drafted and I have criticized dante as much as anyone.
Trust me, I was fine with changing the cake ingredient at the pg position
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so let's trade Burks for an impact PG, then? What about Favors? Which piece of the rest of the cakk to we cut out in order to import a piece of PGcakk?
 
NAOS said:
so let's trade Burks for an impact PG, then? What about Favors? Which piece of the rest of the cakk to we cut out in order to import a piece of PGcakk?
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Not sure. I'm no gm
All I know is I was all for getting lawson, schroeder, calderon, beverly, lin, or pretty much any point guard suggested.

I was never happy with the point guard position. I think you no that about me btw
 
MDAV28 said:
I mean sure, but name me a PG we could trade for that would either:
1. Compete with Dante when he is back as our future at that position
2. Be a competent PG and then just take a backseat role to Dante when he comes back

This is exactly the type of knee-jerk reaction the Jazz DON'T make (especially in preseason before we even KNOW how this team is going to mesh). If that PG is out there and we don't give up any of our core-6 to get him, please do share.
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I'd hate to trade Exum, then have him turn into the next Jason Kidd in the next 3-4 years. Not saying he will but that's the other side of the coin argument.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I'm sure DL has turned over every rock and kicked a ton of tires looking for a better solution at PG. I'll bet he started the process the day after Exum got hurt. He knows what is out there right now and at what price. Maybe that changes after teams get through the pre-season and start looking at their 15-man rosters. There might be some vets teams are willing to let go as their 1st or 2nd year players show promise. I would bet a move will be made at some point. But there simply might not be a viable option (i.e. a PG at a reasonable price) on the market until the trade deadline.
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The timing of the injury was awful. I think had we known Dante was going to be out before the draft or free agency then we have a lot more options. At this point the smartest thing to do is roll with what we have.

Part of the premise of the thread that suggests we should trade Dante is a bit premature. I do think we should proceed with the idea that he may not have a good chance of panning out as the point guard of the future. If the right opportunity comes along to acquire a vet or a long term solution there we should jump on it. If Dante develops then we clear the hypothetical log jam then.
 
NAOS said:
no. that's revisionist. I don't remember reading a single post by a Cakk Baker which singled out one position as editable.
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There was plenty of discussion about moves at the pg position that the cake bakers were against.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I'd hate to trade Exum, then have him turn into the next Jason Kidd in the next 3-4 years. Not saying he will but that's the other side of the coin argument.
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Jazz will NOT be trading Exum, DL isn't that stupid, The offer will be Burke and picks for a veteran PG this season. The vet starts this year and next until Exum is 100%, then splits time with Dante. Gives Exum more time to develop.
 
We also have to realize that championship windows are going to get smaller under the current CBA. Contracts are shorter more players will move around. If we have a chance to be great we may have to sell some long-term assets/flexibility to go for it at some point. I think that point is still in the future.
 
♪alt13 said:
There was plenty of discussion about moves at the pg position that the cake bakers were against.
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I'm a "cake baker" but I was all for upgrading the PG position. I've never been sold on Burke and Cotton was nice last season, but he's a backup. But I'm also a realist. I knew if DL couldn't find a reasonable trade, he'd go with our current crop. You don't jeopardize the future of the Jazz by overpaying (i,e, giving up young, great assets) for stop-gap players,

Vet PG's may be available at the end of pre-season or at the trade deadline. Or they may not be. But we're not getting an all-star PG. So beyond Burke and picks, I hope DL doesn't offer any of our young studs - and that includes Hood and Burks,
 
NAOS said:
so let's trade Burks for an impact PG, then? What about Favors? Which piece of the rest of the cakk to we cut out in order to import a piece of PGcakk?
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Out of Burks and Favors?

It's Burks easily. He the best piece I'd be willing to part with.

Gobert
Favors
&Hayward

Are the main pieces. The big 3.
 
lol at the Cakk Bakers saying they were willing to upgrade at one position. Trying to have your cakk and eat it too?
 
NAOS said:
lol at the Cakk Bakers saying they were willing to upgrade at one position. Trying to have your cakk and eat it too?
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Lol
 
Let's say we signed somebody like Carroll or Danny Green. This is a hypothetical right now, so just go with it.

If we did, then wouldn't it be easier to trade Burks or Hood for an impact PG?


YOU ALWAYS ADD TALENT. I'm still disappointed we didn't.
 
NAOS said:
Let's say we signed somebody like Carroll or Danny Green. This is a hypothetical right now, so just go with it.

If we did, then wouldn't it be easier to trade Burks or Hood for an impact PG?


YOU ALWAYS ADD TALENT. I'm still disappointed we didn't.
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Or play all 3. Trade Exum and Jingles for a PG.
 
NAOS said:
Let's say we signed somebody like Carroll or Danny Green. This is a hypothetical right now, so just go with it.

If we did, then wouldn't it be easier to trade Burks or Hood for an impact PG?


YOU ALWAYS ADD TALENT. I'm still disappointed we didn't.
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That's a good point
 
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