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It is time consider trade Hayward

fishonjazz said:
Do you think hayward would have netted the jazz the #4 pick in last years draft? Would be sweet to have porz right now.
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I doubt it. the Knicks might have been really high on Porz all along, their scout Clarrence Gaines Jr told Phil it was a once in a lifetime opportunity to draft him.. which would mean they were probably pretty confident a stud would be on the board with Towns, Russell and Okafor.

Plus the Knicks have long been trading picks for vets, and they don't have a pick this year, So i think they wanted a 20 year old on a rookie deal instead of a 25 year old expiring in 2 seasons..
 
If it helps the Jazz then yes.

Hayward is a #1 option. He is not a top tier #1, maybe 25th best #1 in the league, so yes, we can do better.

However, even the rock stars that you think make all the game winning shots actually don't. They just take it all the time so when they hit it 25% of the time, you see the Sportscenter highlight.

DL screwed up by letting Hayward get to RFA. Now he gets more money than it was rumored he wanted from the Jazz.
Plus, I think there is a poison pill in there if the Jazz trade him.

Finally, he can now opt out after next year so yes, he will get a lot more money from somebody....

At the end of the day it is a business decision and IMO, everyone is on the table, always.
 
Depends on what you get in return. If Philly calls up and says we will give you our draft spot for Hayward, I think you kind of think about it. But I am not sure you do it even then. Cause there is no guarantee we get Simmons. And I agree that it shows the fanbase that the rebuild failed and that's not good. If we trade any of the starting five is not a good idea right now.

I also think that we are still young, and that most of us expect more than maybe we should from them, me included. I have to sometimes take a step back and see the overall age of this team. And then I am amazed of how well they have played some top tier teams.
 
The only reason to trade Hayward is if one of the top 10 players available, and that would mean trading Hayward and Favors to do that, or at least Hayward, Burks, and multiple picks. And the only reason to do that is if the player is disgruntled or the FO isn't going to want to pay them next their next paycheck. Who out there fits that's description right now?

And no team is going to give up their top 3 draft pick for Hayward since he is only going to be under contract until the end of next season. The Sixers would really risk a top 3 pick to have Hayward be there for a year, laugh at the ****ty situation in front of him, and bounce to another team?

The only viable situation I see playing out is maybe trading Hayward to the Celtics for the Brooklyn Nets pick. Nets have the 3rd worst record, but I don' think they will end up that bad in the end since they have no reason to tank. So you might be trading Hayward for the likely 6th pick or so, with a small chance of jumping into the top 3. You have to think Boston is really excited about the chance at Simmons, so maybe they aren't ready to do that trade.
 
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The positive of trading Hayward would that our team would be ****ing awful and we probably wouldn't win very many more games, so we would have the Nets possible top 6 pick and probably our own top 6 pick.
 
mellow said:
I think the thread title ought to have been, "Is it time to consider trading Hayward?"

This is an interesting question, that creates a lot of good discussion.

Just thinking off the top of my head I say no, because 1- it signals to the fans the rebuild failed, 2-it puts your new young coach in a bad spot, 3- it signals the team that winning isn't the goal, 4- if utah can't keep Hayward, who will it ever keep?
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Either rebuild is not finish or it has failed. You cannot tell us it was success us fans are not blind.
 
Utah will sigh and trade Hayward first round picks and burks for Kevin Durant next summer. Now is time for tanking for top picks. Maybe they already are tanking. I mean, hear me out. Gobert is injured in practice where nobody can see it. They do not give return timeline for days then tripple the estimate that doctors told us is reasonable. Next Quin starts fiddlin with the lineups like a southerner playing the devils went down to georgia.
 
He's only a leader 1/10 games. Sure he scores points and fills up the stat sheet, but when you need him to step it up and put the team on his back he's usually dreadful. I agree with OP that he's a great 2nd option, but until he starts being a clutch go to guy he will never be a number one option.

As far as a trade? I'm not sure exactly what we could get for him. Definitely not a better #2 option, and definitely not a #1.
 
Yes, we should consider trading all our players if it nets us a good deal that makes us a better team.

No, we should not trade Hayward for a pick and to tank. Chance of that pick being as good as Hayward are very low. We also are in a great position as a team without a trade. Hayward is the first option on this team right now. No he is not Durant, Lebron or Curry but he is still a good player. We are still close to .500. If we had Exum and Gobert we would be well above .500. We need to hope Favors keeps improving, he could be a number one option as well or maybe already is for this team. If Gobert, Hood and Exum improve for next season we should be good enough to compete for home court in the playoffs. Next season we will replace our d-league quality bench with decent vets and we will be good.

This is not the time to panic about our team.
 
For me either side of the discussion is legit. It would largely depend on what's out there. I think Boston is looking for that guy and may feel Hayward could be that guy and reconnecting him with his college coach.
 
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