The Jazz drafting philosophy sucks

[Hotdog]

My god hack!!! Don't be an effffing idiot!!! So, u know that Lyles is a bust after 30+ games, and that Booker will have the better career after 30+ games?!?!

I've said it once I've said it a thousand times!! Your an idiot!!!!

That's all you say actually. It's predictable.

Frustrated and angry Thee is gonna call someone stupid? No way? Really? Didn't see that one coming.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

That's all you say actually. It's predictable.

Frustrated and angry Thee is gonna call someone stupid? No way? Really? Didn't see that one coming.

Then for once in your life don't have a stupid opinion


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[Hotdog]

So kirk snyder was a "good guy"?

And enes kanter was a "safe pick" rather than a pick based on potential?


Ya I wish we had more enes kanters and kirk snyders on this team

You did more of proving my point. Those were two bad draft picks. How does that defend the Jazz drafting philosophy?

Kanter was not high potential either. He was an unathletic stiff who didn't project to be a great player. That's another more on the safe side pick. And, we didn't even need another big. It was bad pick all the way around. You can't defend that one.

 

[Hotdog]

OP, thanks for a stupid thread.

Good point. It's like all the picks that haven't worked out are the risky ones.

This thread is ridiculous. Show me 10 teams with better overall drafts considering position than the Jazz since 2011.

Hack's thread starting philosophy sucks. DL, please trade him.

Then for once in your life don't have a stupid opinion


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You can call me stupid and be over the top Homer's all you want, but your opinions don't match up with reality. Where is all this success that we are supposedly having?

Have we been one of the best teams in the NBA the last decade? Or have we been a team stuck in the middle drafting towards the late lottery?

Why not think in terms of reality and not pretend land?

 

[fishonjazz]

Boy hack, you really have turned into a terrible poster.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

You can call me stupid and be over the top Homer's all you want, but your opinions don't match up with reality. Where is all this success that we are supposedly having?

Have we been one of the best teams in the NBA the last decade? Or have we been a team stuck in the middle drafting towards the late lottery?

Why not think in terms of reality and not pretend land?

Did anybody else notice that the goal posts just moved?

 

[Hotdog]

Did anybody else notice that the goal posts just moved?

It's a windy day

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

You can call me stupid and be over the top Homer's all you want, but your opinions don't match up with reality. Where is all this success that we are supposedly having?

Have we been one of the best teams in the NBA the last decade? Or have we been a team stuck in the middle drafting towards the late lottery?

Why not think in terms of reality and not pretend land?

Omg. Are u being serious?!?! This is why all my posts directed at u are the same. Fact of the matter is we are rebuilding. Rebuilding is not just a 3-5 year process unless u get lucky by getting a LBJ or Curry type players, and there's a lot of luck involved in that. Secondly... No team is perfect when it comes to the draft. Like the Jazz every team has their hits and misses. Also, it's important to recognize that just about every time they take a risk in the draft it blows up in their faces. Let's also not forget that they have had their share of success in the draft.

Just a few of our good picks...

AK47. 24th pick

Millsap second round.

Deron Williams 3rd pick. (Some experts will say he was better then cp3 during his Jazz days and his teams had more success then cp3's teams did )

Hayward, yes we missed on George, but none the less Hayward was one of the better players selected in the draft and we are lucky to have him.

Burks. 12th pick. One of the better 6th men in the league. By the way who was considered one of the more risky picks? Kanter. How'd that work for the Jazz.

Hood. 23rd pick. A lot of teams passed on him. He's actually doing more then both Hayward and George did their first two years. Not saying he will be as good or better, but u never know. Just interesting to think about

I'm probably missing some names, but damn Hack who's opinion doesn't match with reality?

Aren't u glad I didn't have the same old tiresome take of you're an idiot?
































By the way, you're still an idiot!!


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[Hotdog]

Did anybody else notice that the goal posts just moved?

It's a windy day

 

[Hotdog]

Boy hack, you really have turned into a terrible poster.

Is this want you people do when someone isn't like you? You try and exterminate them? Have you ever heard of Nazi's ?

 

[fishonjazz]

Is this want you people do when someone isn't like you? You try and exterminate them? Have you ever heard of Nazi's ?

Nope.
Lots of posters are nothing like me.

You are the only one that I have said has recently turned into a very bad poster though.

 

[vegas]

Its really at the heart of the problems for the Jazz, and the reason why there are no championship banners in the ESA.


The common theme the Jazz seem to use for drafting, is just try to bring in "good guys". It seems like they are willing to pass up potential for safe picks too.

This gets so old and frustrating. At what point do they say to themselves, we actually want to win, and we are gonna take some chances?

Fish has correctly pointed out that those guys don't fit in "don't take chances" box you have put the FO in.

From Kanter Draft Express:

Enes Kanter is one of the great mysteries of the 2011 NBA draft. He's a player who has looked incredibly dominant in small glimpses, but about whom little is known due to the unique circumstances of his arrival in the United States.

Using recently acquired game footage from his prep school days in the 2009-10 season, we've been able to learn more about his strengths and weaknesses as a prospect, which can hopefully shine some light on his ability as a player.

Prep school basketball is far from an ideal setting to evaluate Kanter's NBA prospects due to the weak competition he faced, but it's more than we previously had to work with, which was very little.

In writing this report, we looked at the following games:

-Four Stoneridge Prep games spanning from November 2009 to January 2010
-The Nike Hoop Summit on April 10, 2010
-Turkey vs. Lithuania, August 2, 2009 – Kanter vs Jonas Valanciunas at the U-18 European Championship

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3x2ulFhCh
https://www.draftexpress.com

So they had a sample size of 6 games, 2 with college level competition. Yeah he was a very safe pick alright, no risk/reward factor at all.

Kanter has not been consistent in the way he's approached the draft process, sending mixed messages and changing strategies seemingly on a daily basis.
From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3x2vWBQtz
https://www.draftexpress.com

Cuz mixed messages=model citizen ("good guys").

From Kirk Snyder Draft Express:

Has a reputation for being somewhat of a loose cannon on and off the court.

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3x2wEwj5q
https://www.draftexpress.com

Exum was seen as the highest if not, one of the highest risk/reward picks of his draft.

So of the 3 top 5 picks the Jazz had since the 80s, 2 of them were high bust potential picks since they were players that had hardly played at a competitive level. You are right, the conservative Jazz never take chances.