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I was not that high on Knight.
Was not that high on MKG (other than locker room guy).
Was kinda luke on Booker.
Was somewhat high on TJones.
I HATED Goodwin.
Have totally been the Skal naysayer.

Was high on Kanter (meh)
Was super high on Wall, Cousins, and Davis.

Point is, like you, I don't pimp players just because they're UK (you Duke).
I really, truly, think Murray has it upstairs to be special. It's not his physical attributes or even any elite skill, per se, but he 100% believes he is going to rip out throats. I like that.
 
Dr. Jones said:
I am.
Of course, "impactful" is highly subjective.
Is it w/l's, assists, points???

How about player rater?

You get the point. Let's set the rules up front and assuming they're not stupid, yes, I'm definitely game.

Murray is gon torch.
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Probably something like Win Shares, Net rating, VORP...I just think points/rebounds/assists can devalue defense so much, I mean, based on those Kanter is incredible, ya know. Let's pick an odd number of stats, player with the majority wins. Obviously team situation matters too, so should we set a 3 year window? Maybe 5 year? I'm open to things.

I'm thinking when I win, you have to wear a Laettner jersey to a Kentucky game. Preferable a Duke-Kentucky game, but whatever the schedule holds. Pictures required of course. You choose what I do.
 
#bern said:
Probably something like Win Shares, Net rating, VORP...I just think points/rebounds/assists can devalue defense so much, I mean, based on those Kanter is incredible, ya know. Let's pick an odd number of stats, player with the majority wins. Obviously team situation matters too, so should we set a 3 year window? Maybe 5 year? I'm open to things.

I'm thinking when I win, you have to wear a Laettner jersey to a Kentucky game. Preferable a Duke-Kentucky game, but whatever the schedule holds. Pictures required of course. You choose what I do.
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First, I wouldn't do that bet. Too rich.
I'm open to a jazzfanz poll.
 
Yeah, just do a Jazzfanz poll. Could even have it be a poll in a private forum.

Fwiw, my money is on Jamal being the better player.

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Dr. Jones said:
I was not that high on Knight.
Was not that high on MKG (other than locker room guy).
Was kinda luke on Booker.
Was somewhat high on TJones.
I HATED Goodwin.
Have totally been the Skal naysayer.

Was high on Kanter (meh)
Was super high on Wall, Cousins, and Davis.

Point is, like you, I don't pimp players just because they're UK (you Duke).
I really, truly, think Murray has it upstairs to be special. It's not his physical attributes or even any elite skill, per se, but he 100% believes he is going to rip out throats. I like that.
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Good post, Doctor.
 
#bern said:
Probably something like Win Shares, Net rating, VORP...I just think points/rebounds/assists can devalue defense so much, I mean, based on those Kanter is incredible, ya know. Let's pick an odd number of stats, player with the majority wins. Obviously team situation matters too, so should we set a 3 year window? Maybe 5 year? I'm open to things.

I'm thinking when I win, you have to wear a Laettner jersey to a Kentucky game. Preferable a Duke-Kentucky game, but whatever the schedule holds. Pictures required of course. You choose what I do.
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Do best of 5 at RPM, WS/48(or just WS), BPM, RPM WINS and PER.
 
Not my debate, but I think Baldwin is probably a 3rd or 4th guard. I say that because I don't think he's that distinguished as a PG, and I don't think he's big enough to consistently guard NBA 2s. His 3-pt shooting will get him minutes and he should be a decent defensive player, but I don't think he's a starter ideally. Maybe he'll prove that wrong. I see him as a middle-class Deron Williams.

I think Murray is a bonafide starting 2-guard and an 18 - 20-pt scorer (or better) who will shoot 38%+ from 3-pt range even as a young player. He'll need to run off screens and play a bit of pick-and-roll--he won't blow buy defenders who are up on him--but he'll be fantastic when he gets a bit of space. I think he's a borderline All Star with a clear path to becoming an All Star. I think he's like a bigger version of CJ McCollum who is even better in the open floor.
 
In all fairness, I can see the buzz with Dejounte Murray. There's a lot to like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjCfjP6w2HQ
 
I'm not much of a Luwawu guy, but sheesh, some of his dunks in traffic leaving from well outside the circle...intriguing prospect. I wish he put up those numbers at 19 instead of 21.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
I'm not much of a Luwawu guy, but sheesh, some of his dunks in traffic leaving from well outside the circle...intriguing prospect. I wish he put up those numbers at 19 instead of 21.
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Yeah, and in a better league.

I still like him okay though.

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Dr. Jones said:
I was not that high on Knight.
Was not that high on MKG (other than locker room guy).
Was kinda luke on Booker.
Was somewhat high on TJones.
I HATED Goodwin.
Have totally been the Skal naysayer.

Was high on Kanter (meh)
Was super high on Wall, Cousins, and Davis.

Point is, like you, I don't pimp players just because they're UK (you Duke).
I really, truly, think Murray has it upstairs to be special. It's not his physical attributes or even any elite skill, per se, but he 100% believes he is going to rip out throats. I like that.
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Good for you.
 
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