MDAV28
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These don't really exist anymore cause players get the same salary in a sign-and-trade as they would in the open market.
Lillard available?
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These don't really exist anymore cause players get the same salary in a sign-and-trade as they would in the open market.
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MDAV28
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Sure, I'll bite, explain how that would exactly work.
♪alt13
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I just did
It's what the Jazz do
Rather than have a big hedge till the wing/guard can recover they suck the player into a midrange pocket. Have you watched this Rudy Gobert fella play? Rumor Has It that he's one of the best if not the best defender in the league.
MDAV28
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So right you go over the screen... Hill getting around a screen is night and day compared to Lillard. Having Gobert doesn't change the fact that Lillard still needs to get around a screen right? You don't want to switch Gobert. You pull the best defender in the league out of where he is effective.
MDAV28
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In 2014, Tony Parker thrashed Lillard in their series. I think he had 2 30+ point performances, some of the highest outputs of his season. And only played about 30 minutes a night. The had to switch Wes and Batum on Parker. Completely changed the series. Spurs won 4-1. I think Lillard is WORSE now than he was in that series.
This sounds like I hate Lillard. I like Lillard. I just think his defensive inability shouldn't be ignored, especially if you're giving up your team for him.
♪alt13
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If Lillard did on defense what Quinn would ask him to do at any time the last two years his man gets a dunk. It changes everything to have someone like gobert under the rim. Any real jazz fan would understand that. You should watch the Jazz more.
MDAV28
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Gobert, the force he is, can't magically allow Lillard to get around screens my friend. That matters. Gobert can't fix it. In this case Gobert's man gets a dunk for picking up Lillard's. Watch some more Blazers.
green
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That's the thing. As much as we are giving up for Lillard, we wouldn't be giving up the team for him. We'd still have Hill, Hayward, Neto, Burks, Ingles, Johnson, Lyles, Gobert.
Yeah, Lillard has defensive problems. He also has incredible offensive abilities.
Hood and Exum aren't exactly defensive elites. Lillard is a lot better offensively than Hood and Exum are defensively. Losing Favors hurts, but reality is, we are losing Favors anyways. We can't afford to keep him. If you can move him for a star, do it.
Think of it this way:
You can only have three max guys. Gobert and Hayward are 1 and 2 for the Jazz. Who is #3? Do you see Hood, Favors or Exum as our #3?
Or, if you can move those three for a legit #1, wouldn't the smarter thing be to move them for the #1, especially if Hood is going to get 90 million as a free agent?
♪alt13
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Lillard is a plus player on a s*** team. Despite admittedly being a negative Defender. You should watch the Blazers. I'm sure you haven't that's pretty clear.
If Willard can be a net-positive on a team with s*** defense all around then he's going to be an even bigger positive on a good defensive team. It's simple stuff really.