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2016-17 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Pros and Cons of no draft:

Pros:
- Rookies get to choose where they play so they will be happier/more motivated in their situations
- Teams will always have a chance to add talent no matter how good/bad they are. This expands the ability to team build while competing
- No draft means there is no reason to tank, making the NBA undeniably a better product over the course of an entire season
- Better run organizations will get a competitive advantage as they can show rookies their skill in player development and winning as attractive reason to join team
- NBA fans wouldn't make up lame draft lottery conspiracies

Cons:
- Poorly run teams will be at a disadvantage. If your organization is dysfunctional, can't win, and continually fails at player development, most rookies will shy away from your organization. (This could be listed as a pro, but maybe some of y'all are ****** who enjoy watching the Kings continually get top picks and fail)
- NBA major markets would get a competitive advantage over top hyped rookies as they will be pushed their by shoe companies and endorsement deals (NBA will probably look at this a pro. It's good for the NBA to have Lakers/Knicks be good)
- The fun of making mock drafts would be lost, but they would be replaced by guessing who gets who and for how much. That admittedly is probably less fun than doing mock drafts though.

As a Utah fan I have no idea how anyone would dislike this. The Jazz would benefit an incredible deal by having no draft. Yes, so would the Lakers/Knicks, but that doesnt mean Utah wouldn't thrive with it either. The fact of the matter is that the Jazz would have a higher ability to land a top 10 draft prospect every year than they would by winning 50 games a season and competing but never truly challenging the top teams.
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Major markets get a distinct advantage and you said it would be good for Utah?


Bro, you've lost it.


All the best.
 
ONE LOVE said:
You didn't need to google I posted a link to the exact quote.
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So I should read one quote from a huge article and take your word for it? https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/adam-silver-my-preference-would-be-to-have-a-harder-cap/

Of course he went into negotiations and asked for a hard cap. You negotiate and you take a hard stance like "We want a hard cap" then the players say no, and you work from there and meet in the middle. Silver has to work for all 30 owners, so he has to represent all their interest. He knows he has owners on both sides of the fence, so he negotiates from a position of a hard cap full well knowing he is going to meet in the middle and just get a "harder" cap that has stiffer penalties for LT offenders, which is what happened.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Major markets get a distinct advantage and you said it would be good for Utah?


Bro, you've lost it.


All the best.
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So because big markets win that means Utah has to lose? Do you even think about it or just read that part and lose your ****?

How has the current draft system helped Utah at all? The Jazz draft some good players, get good enough to win 50+ games, then get stuck and have to rinse/wash/repeat in hopes they land a transcendent super-star in the 3 year window they suck ***. Tell me how that is good for the NBA or the Jazz?

Please, just use your ****ing brain.
 
With Gobert and Hayward the Jazz are going to win between 50-60 games a year and pick in the mid to late 20's every season. Their chances of finding the 3rd piece of the Hayward/Gobert pie in that range is slim. Our chance of getting better increase exponentially under a no draft free agent rookie system but you say no just because it helps the Lakers/Knicks also? But you are OK with teams not giving a **** about winning all year just so they can draft high and suck *** again the next year? You want to reward the Kings for being incompetent every year? Why? How does that make the NBA better?
 
ONE LOVE said:
I think Cy is starting to lose his marbles, guys... he has abandoned all logic... best to just let him be.
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Please explain to me how no draft hurts Utah and how a draft helps Utah.

Please tell me.

Then explain to me how it hurts/helps the NBA.

You are defending the draft when the only thing it does is encourage tanking and rewards bad teams. So far your only response has been "Wah it helps the big market teams wah wah wah"

IT would just be more interesting to hear a full critique of the idea and not just "Oh my god the Lakers and Knicks will have an advantage". Do people really think every prospect in this draft would go to the Knicks when their star player doesnt even want to be on the Knicks?
 
Take this discussion the the right forum please. This is the PLAYOFFS thread.

/backseat moderating
 
RJF said:
Take this discussion the the right forum please. This is the PLAYOFFS thread.

/backseat moderating
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It's on topic. Most of the playoff talk has been about parity and lack there of and my talks have been about improving parity at the top half of the NBA.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's on topic. Most of the playoff talk has been about parity and lack there of and my talks have been about improving parity at the top half of the NBA.
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Not really on topic as it isn't specifically about any current games and more about the state of the league. Should be in the nba thread in general sports forum.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Please explain to me how no draft hurts Utah and how a draft helps Utah.

Please tell me.
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Because Utah has consistently struggled to bring in quality FAs. Especially young players that have a bad perception about living in Utah. If rookies chose their team Utah would be low on the list of teams chosen and we would have to overpay to get kids to come here like most small markets would have to. Big markets and hometowns of kids have an advantage. Lots of kids make friends as well early and would try and team up early as well to make super teams.
 
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