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Rubio traded to Jazz

Bawse Dawg said:
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If anybody on this forum doesn't believe Hayward hasn't already made up his mind whether he is leaving or staying, you've got rocks in your head.
This trade changes nothing..
it'll help with our PG situation next season but that's it.
Gordon and probably his mrs are the only people who know for sure where he's headed.
I hope he stays but.............


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Catchall said:
Yes, Pelton gave the Jazz an 'A'. Here's an exceprt --

The clock was ticking down to the final hours on the $16 million or so in 2016-17 cap space the Jazz had remaining after they were unable to convince starting point guard George Hill to agree to a renegotiation and extension during the season.

When the 2017-18 league year officially begins after the moratorium, the cap holds for free agents Hill and Gordon Hayward would put Utah over the cap. For that matter, so would retaining just Hayward's cap hold, and even if both Hill and Hayward left, Rudy Gobert's extension kicking in means the Jazz wouldn't likely have as much space as they did Friday, the last day of the 2016-17 league year.
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Thanks, I'm liking this more and more...
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Honestly, do you really think DL is going to risk losing Hayward, just to save the difference between Hill and Rubio?

That's expected from Cy, but not you. This is an insurance policy because they are worried about not being able to re-sign Hill.

Not some cheap *** decision to save money and risk losing Gordon.
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No... I said as much above... I don't mind the trade at all. I think Ricky's game may cause some to not like the fit.

In a vacuum I really like the trade and assume hayward is cool with it... I just think there is no way we are signing Hill unless he gets like half what I think his market value is.
 
I have the Jazz at about $111 mil in salaries if Stayward. Ingles likely puts them into the LT which is @ $119 mil. They would have 14 players and a roster spot for the 2nd rounder. Ingles at $11 million and the 2nd round pick at the minimum of just over 500k puts them only 3 million into the LT.


By Diaw. By Hill. Thanks for the good times.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Honestly, do you really think DL is going to risk losing Hayward, just to save the difference between Hill and Rubio?

That's expected from Cy, but not you. This is an insurance policy because they are worried about not being able to re-sign Hill.

Not some cheap *** decision to save money and risk losing Gordon.
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Give me a break. You're the one insisting they should cow tow to Hill and break the bank for him. This is DL playing hardball, like I said he would.
 
stitches said:
OK< I'm done moaning about this one. I apologize for being so pessimistic. I hope I got it out of my system and I'm ready to support our new player. I did it with Lyles, I'm gonna do it with Ricky too.

For what it's worth Ricky is a tremendous passer and defender. Hill actually had kind of a down year defensively last year, so Ricky will probably be an obvious upgrade there. The thing that's coming to my mind from the get go is - we need to change our offensive system. I can't see how it will work with Rubio. We will be once again a point guard dominated team. I don't know what it mean. Hopefully Quin has some idea about how to restructure the offense. Those handoffs and UCLA cuts are probably over... or at least a bit limited. This is another thing I'm worried about - Quin and DL will have to sell Hayward on a completely different system they haven't even tried implementing yet.

We might also be wise to speed up the offense and take advantage of early transition opportunities. It would be such a waste if we cannot utilize Ricky's vision and passing in transition.

BTW for the Milos fans - Ricky can be almost as fun as Milos with his creativity.
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Ricky is one of the leaders in deflections and gathering loose balls. We control the point of attack and the paint.
 
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