BlastingNews - Utah Jazz NBA off-season grade

[elan_prodigy]

DL losing Hayward for nothing is a failure on his part. Can we please just acknowledge that it is his job to avoid what happened. If the GM is helpless then why have one?

Hayward has always had one foot out the door. With DL saying (and genuinely believing) things like "With every fiber of our collective being and soul of the Utah Jazz we want him back". What more can you ask for? And don't start with his RFA deal... He simply wasn't worth it then.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Rubio is a divisive player. Not everyone is going to think adding him is a great move.

 

[♪alt13]

I don't think you understand that not everything happens that you want to happen. A GM can only do so much, but when a player wants a change of scenery (and to not be the MAN anymore), what else can you do?

As a fan not a damn thing.

It is DL's job to anticipate the intention of his players(players that he has much better access to than you or I) and act accordingly. DL got nothing out of Hayward. He miscalculated his ability to retain him. It is his job not to let that happen. You can forgive DL's failure but for ****s sake admit that he failed.

 

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As a fan not a damn thing.

It is DL's job to anticipate the intention of his players(players that he has much better access to than you or I) and act accordingly. DL got nothing out of Hayward. He miscalculated his ability to retain him. It is his job not to let that happen. You can forgive DL's failure but for ****s sake admit that he failed.

The Jazz made the 2nd round of the playoffs and won over 50 games for the first time in... idk. It's not so simple as trade the All-Star player to get something in return, especially when he fails to make his intentions clear to anyone. Furthermore, Hayward left because he didn't want to be a Jazzman - so it's good he left no matter what.

 

[tleikheen]

. It's not so simple as trade the All-Star player to get something in return, especially when he fails to make his intentions clear to anyone. Furthermore, Hayward left because he didn't want to be a Jazzman - so it's good he left no matter what.

Even 1/2 the Jazz fans thought Hayward was gonna leave the Jazz.It wasn't surprising.He signed with Charlotte during RFA because the Jazz left him to see if he could get a better deal and he did,forcing Jazz to match.
Now I think Exum for sure and likely Hood will test RFA next summer.Two other players ,Favors and Burks are healthy this summer and playing for a paycheck.Next summer could be bigger exit than Hayward was this summer.
Somehow Jazz are creating a team where the players don't want to grow with them.

 

[MTS]

Now I think Exum for sure and likely Hood will test RFA next summer.

I don't think you get how RFA works.

Two other players ,Favors and Burks are healthy this summer and playing for a paycheck.

Burks leaving wouldn't make the team worse.

 

[♪alt13]

The Jazz made the 2nd round of the playoffs and won over 50 games for the first time in... idk. It's not so simple as trade the All-Star player to get something in return, especially when he fails to make his intentions clear to anyone. Furthermore, Hayward left because he didn't want to be a Jazzman - so it's good he left no matter what.

Good lord how delusional can you get? It is not a good thing to lose an All-Star! It isn't! I'm certain that DL doesn't think that. I'm certain that after GH left DL didn't sit down and add it to his resume.

Accomplishments
I was General Manager of the Utah Jazz the year All star forward Gordon Hayward decided to sign with another organization.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Good lord how delusional can you get? It is not a good thing to lose an All-Star! It isn't! I'm certain that DL doesn't think that. I'm certain that after GH left DL didn't sit down and add it to his resume.

Accomplishments
I was General Manager of the Utah Jazz the year All star forward Gordon Hayward decided to sign with another organization.

Accomplishments? If I were Dennis, my resume would most definitely include some of the following:

I took over as GM for the Jazz, moved on from Corbin in a classy way... promptly hired Quin Snyder (a player development coach) and Johnny Bryant who together took Gordon Hayward from a young man to an All Star in 3 years. Hayward wasn't nearly the player then as he is now. Simultaneously, our organization drafted Rudy Gobert, dumped Kantcer, we lead the organization from Utard to a compelling destination for free agents like Joe Johnson, we won 25 more games last than then the year I took over as GM, and all while having two of the most disastrous years in the history of the franchise wrt games lost by the top 7 players on the team. We made the playoffs and advanced to the second round just 3 years removed from a 25 win season all while changing the culture of the team and helping create a unique identity.

Finally, as GM, I managed to trade up into one of the arguably deepest drafts in the last 10 years (mind you a draft that teams have been jockeying for a chance to move into for the last 3 years) and I did it by moving Trey Lyles and the 24th pick. We grabbed the steal of the draft who Quin will develop into more than Hayward could have been for the team.

So, alt. It sucks to lose Hayward. We are all pissed about it. But I wouldn't throw blame at a guy who has run circles around Scott Layden, KOC, and frankly every other GM the Jazz have ever had. DL could have dumped Hayward like Boston just did to Thomas, but the Karma police will get Ainge. Ainge will reap his rewards. DL's trust will also be rewarded. The real loss was when Hayward didn't just say 'I am leaning Boston'. He signaled he was leaning for the Jazz when he wasn't. Now that he is there, he will get what he wanted. NO THOMAS, NO CROWDER, NO BRADLEY, NO OLYNYK, NO DEFENSIVE IDENTITY, 4 RETURNING PLAYERS, A SHOOT FIRST POINT GUARD, AND A GM WHO WILL TRADE HIM IN HIS LAST SEASON. The problem isn't DL, it was Hayward wasn't honest with himself long enough to say where his heart was and it sucked for us. We have the framework at the helm to recover. We will.

 

[Getting Traded]

Good lord how delusional can you get? It is not a good thing to lose an All-Star! It isn't! I'm certain that DL doesn't think that. I'm certain that after GH left DL didn't sit down and add it to his resume.

Accomplishments
I was General Manager of the Utah Jazz the year All star forward Gordon Hayward decided to sign with another organization.

Hayward was not at all clear about his intentions. Even his teammates were uncertain; why else would they have gone to the meeting to try to convince him to stay? Is DL supposed to be a mind reader, especially when the player seems to be uncertain himself. Don't see how you can fault DL. And Hill was offered a contract but he nixed the offer. Then when he didn't get the offers he wanted, what are the Jazz supposed to do? They never took their original offer off the table, so far as we knew. Instead, DL did the smart thing and got Rubio. Not sure where this idea about Rubio being divisive came from -- I think it was CY who said that. Maybe he can elaborate.

 

[fishonjazz]

DL losing Hayward for nothing is a failure on his part. Can we please just acknowledge that it is his job to avoid what happened. If the GM is helpless then why have one?

Can you at least acknowledge that DL might have had no idea if Hayward planned to stay or leave and that hayward might not have known until it was to late to get anything for him?

 

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Can you at least acknowledge that DL might have had no idea if Hayward planned to stay or leave and that hayward might not have known until it was to late to get anything for him?

No because this is his persona. alt has been doing this for a while now. His takes and responses are super predictable. Originality has left the former heyhey.

 

[Gobzilla]

The article didn't say anything about injuries (a major factor in last year's results) and it reduced Ricky Rubio to a liability and Donavan Mitchell was an after thought. Frankly, I think we are all going to see our offense go from one of the most ISO dominant teams in the league to a top 8 passing team and Rubio doesn't have to score to facilitate the offense better than 40 game overpaid Hill and Shelvin Mack/Neto. If we seriously are a top 3 defensive team with an increase in deflections that bring our pace up... add in health and a assists and I think this article will look narrow minded in 8 months.

If we aren't healthy, Donovan plays like a shell of the SL performances we saw, Rubio can't shoot so much that he can't open up any passes, and we average 80 points... then so be it. But I really can't see a Rubio run offense be lower than a top 15 team in the league. The Twolves offense outperformed their roster and they whined about Rubio's inability to stretch the floor. They didn't know how good they had it. Teague doesn't run an offense. Teague scores. Rubio ran an offense. I would say last year the Jazz spent long periods of games NOT running an offense. I am excited to see that change.

Do you even watch Jazz games? They don't play ISO offense at all, they are all about the pass, haha.