Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

[fishonjazz]

We all wanted him. Infection was the only give up a first for him person tho.

I was willing to give up a first too.

 

[Jack Strop]

Why would we want Mirotic? Jazz need to and should be able to get good draft pricks for Hood or Favors. Mirotic doesn't make sense. He's a short-term rental. What are we renting him for?

Obviously, if Utah traded for Niko, they would exercise his option and then hope to re-sign him after next season.

We ain't getting a pick for Favors. His salary can't be matched on any playiff team other than Cleveland without taking back a bad contract. Hood likely gets us a late 1st.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yes it is. If you have no plans to sign players in 2018, its' 1000000% worth it.

Except that they could stretch his $15M remaining over five years... so cap hit goes from 11 to 3.

 

[MDAV28]

Dumping Asik for the Pels probably means like saving 20 million dollars next year once the tax figures come in after they sign Cousins. It's a big deal for a small market franchise w/ cheap owners.

Anybody keeping or acquiring Asik will definitely stretch him.

EDIT: Oh HH beat me to it

 

[SCS]

Why would we want Mirotic? Jazz need to and should be able to get good draft pricks for Hood or Favors. Mirotic doesn't make sense. He's a short-term rental. What are we renting him for?

Because for us he wouldn't be a rental. He'd be someone we'd have on a good contract until 2019 and then be able to re-sign. He'd be a long-term answer for the stretch 4 role that we've desperately needed filled for a loooooooooonnnnnngggggggg time.

 

[NAOS]

EDIT: Oh HH beat me to it

I'm seriously considering making this my sig

 

[LoPo]

New Orleans wants a quality expiring player while dumping Asik and hopefully Ajinca. To do it, they are willing to trade their 1st.

JoeJ and Udoh for Asik, Ajinca and NOLA's 1st. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycc9hphr

We sacrifice cap space for summer 2018 in order to get a first rounder in the late teens. Is that worth it?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y94xmvlx

Here is my final deal. We take Ajinca and Mirotic and give up Favs and Jerebko. NO can decide whether or not to waive Jerebko... he's another solid rotation player for them this year. They get off of Ajinca and Asik. Bulls get the same damn deal they were going to get. We get our guy but hurt our cap space that we were never going to use next year.

 

[latin jazz]

It's a cap-clearing move.

yeah, I just think they could have stretched Asik rather than paying a 1st or even wait until the draft/offseason when he basically becomes an expiring. I get why both teams would do it, particularly NO if they wanted to resign Boggie (while remaining competitive)

On the other hand, I'm a bit surprised talks got that far. As an expiring Niko could veto any trade. Furthermore, it was reported he gave the Bulls a list of teams he was willing to play for.

Bulls GM: great! we had a deal in place
Pelicans GM: are you sure he is OK with you declining his option?
Bulls GM: yeah, sure. Just let me call his agent...
...uh, ummm, he said 'no'
hello? are you still there??? .....​

I'm wondering if the Bulls are the ones leaking the info, putting pressure on other teams that a 1st was on the table. At the end of the day, guys like Woj are just part of the game, and in exchange they get exclusive information. I hope the Jazz exercise patience and call the bluff. Eventually we can also get Niko as a FA.

 

[LoPo]

Some of you act like stretching a contact is such an easy thing to do. $3+ per year for 5 years is a pain. Look at Detroit, they have to pay Josh Smith $5 per year until 2020-21 and it really hurts their ability to have quality depth.

It is a guarantee that $3+ per year will be frowned upon for 5 years. That is a certainty. A pick in the late teens being worth it in the end is not.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y94xmvlx

Here is my final deal. We take Ajinca and Mirotic and give up Favs and Jerebko. NO can decide whether or not to waive Jerebko... he's another solid rotation player for them this year. They get off of Ajinca and Asik. Bulls get the same damn deal they were going to get. We get our guy but hurt our cap space that we were never going to use next year.

Another variation would be Jerebko to Chicago and Holiday to NO... Jrue and Justin would love to play together and give NO cheap wing help. We still get Ajinca which sucks.

 

[NAOS]

Because for us he wouldn't be a rental. He'd be someone we'd have on a good contract until 2019 and then be able to re-sign. He'd be a long-term answer for the stretch 4 role that we've desperately needed filled for a loooooooooonnnnnngggggggg time.

lol