Utah Trade Deadline Discussion
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What if the return for Hood is like TLC and some seconds (Sixers have good ones this year and next)?
elan_prodigy
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Yeh maybe. Not stoked though. Id prefer an early 2nd to a really late 1st.
Id be pressing for Bolden.
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Also if seconds are super valuable rn what about AB and our second for al Jefferson... his contract is only 4M guaranteed next year. Would have to see if that gets us actual space or not.
Sounds like it will be a boring *** deadline.
Sounds like it will be a boring *** deadline.
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lol k a first rounder for an expiring free agent
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They have Bkn second this year and Sacramento next year. Plus TLC... better than a poke in the eye I guess. I think FRPs went from under valued to over valued over night.
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Everyone asking for a first and yet that's the only thing teams aren't giving up... unless you are known to panic and your name is the New Orleans Pelicans. LMAO.
Stretch 4 market is kinda bare right now and I don't think it's worth it to lose Favors just to have a hole. Hood and Burks are expendable although Hood has been stellar off the bench lately.
It'll be interesting if Hood really is as good as gone. Favors would probably be a sadder case since he's been around quite a while... almost as long as Hornacek if I read that right earlier today.
Stretch 4 market is kinda bare right now and I don't think it's worth it to lose Favors just to have a hole. Hood and Burks are expendable although Hood has been stellar off the bench lately.
It'll be interesting if Hood really is as good as gone. Favors would probably be a sadder case since he's been around quite a while... almost as long as Hornacek if I read that right earlier today.
elan_prodigy
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Those picks are nice but still not enough for Hood imo. Favs yes, Burks yes but Hood is worth a 10-18 pick imo.
Who do you guys view as the "core" of this Jazz team? I'm not sure that question has been asked here but I feel like it's an important question to ponder. In my view the core of this team going forward are the following players...
Donovan & Rudy- Of course. 2 All-NBA level talents. Superstars. The two most important players to our franchise.
Ricky Rubio- Our current #3 to the big 2. Whether he is the long-term #3 or just a bridge to whoever that guy may be is up for debate. But his value to us right now is unquestionable.
Dante Exum- He's the guy that I believe that the FO really wants to become that #3. DL and Quin have never wavered in their support of Dante and their faith in him as a prospect.
Joe Ingles- The ultimate glue guy and team player. Very important to the team on AND off the court.
Those are the guys that I view as the "core" right now. And if that's the core then the pieces that we surround them with need to compliment their skills. I don't see how Rodney fits into that core. Rodney is a high usage volume shooter and scorer. That's his best skill as a player. That doesn't mesh well with a Donovan, Rubio and Dante trio. Donovan NEEDS to be a high usage scorer because he's a star. Rubio is not an off ball player, he needs the ball in his hands a good amount because he's a good playmaker. And what have the coaches been preaching to Dante ever since he got here? Attack, be aggressive offensively, get to the rim. With just those 3 I think we can make things work. But 4 guards who all require the ball doesn't seem like a good recipe for success to me. Someone would have to play out of their comfort zone (and that didn't work very well for Rubio this year). So, if the Jazz end up keeping Hood at the deadline and we match an offer on him this summer the question becomes who ends up leaving between Rubio and Exum?
I really think that moving Hood now for the best offer (whatever that may be) is the move. Rubio is a better player than Hood. And Exum has more upside than Hood and will be far cheaper to keep.
Donovan & Rudy- Of course. 2 All-NBA level talents. Superstars. The two most important players to our franchise.
Ricky Rubio- Our current #3 to the big 2. Whether he is the long-term #3 or just a bridge to whoever that guy may be is up for debate. But his value to us right now is unquestionable.
Dante Exum- He's the guy that I believe that the FO really wants to become that #3. DL and Quin have never wavered in their support of Dante and their faith in him as a prospect.
Joe Ingles- The ultimate glue guy and team player. Very important to the team on AND off the court.
Those are the guys that I view as the "core" right now. And if that's the core then the pieces that we surround them with need to compliment their skills. I don't see how Rodney fits into that core. Rodney is a high usage volume shooter and scorer. That's his best skill as a player. That doesn't mesh well with a Donovan, Rubio and Dante trio. Donovan NEEDS to be a high usage scorer because he's a star. Rubio is not an off ball player, he needs the ball in his hands a good amount because he's a good playmaker. And what have the coaches been preaching to Dante ever since he got here? Attack, be aggressive offensively, get to the rim. With just those 3 I think we can make things work. But 4 guards who all require the ball doesn't seem like a good recipe for success to me. Someone would have to play out of their comfort zone (and that didn't work very well for Rubio this year). So, if the Jazz end up keeping Hood at the deadline and we match an offer on him this summer the question becomes who ends up leaving between Rubio and Exum?
I really think that moving Hood now for the best offer (whatever that may be) is the move. Rubio is a better player than Hood. And Exum has more upside than Hood and will be far cheaper to keep.
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So. . . A bit out of left field, but I think the Jazz should try to swap Alec Burks and a future 2nd round pick for DeMarre Carroll to add another lock-down wing defender for the playoff push.
I’d essentially have him fill the Thabo/JJ role on the team for the rest of this year and next. It adds an extra $4 million to the payroll, but it also has the Jazz getting a guy who is a better fit for the team moving forward. The financial commitment is still fairly minimal. Next year, he’ll be a $15 million expiring contract - similar to what the Jazz are facing with Burks anyways. He does a lot of stuff that already fits this team (defense, hustle, decent three point shooter) and he has a positive opinion of both the club and Quin Snyder. The Nets get to save some cash and add a young wing to their roster for a year and a half(ish) tryout. I think it could be a deal that benefits both teams as well as both players. Probably not very likely, but should be worth looking at.
Plus, I love the idea of a Gobert, Favors, Carroll, Jingles, O’Neale, Hood, Mitchell and Rubio playoff rotation.
I’d essentially have him fill the Thabo/JJ role on the team for the rest of this year and next. It adds an extra $4 million to the payroll, but it also has the Jazz getting a guy who is a better fit for the team moving forward. The financial commitment is still fairly minimal. Next year, he’ll be a $15 million expiring contract - similar to what the Jazz are facing with Burks anyways. He does a lot of stuff that already fits this team (defense, hustle, decent three point shooter) and he has a positive opinion of both the club and Quin Snyder. The Nets get to save some cash and add a young wing to their roster for a year and a half(ish) tryout. I think it could be a deal that benefits both teams as well as both players. Probably not very likely, but should be worth looking at.
Plus, I love the idea of a Gobert, Favors, Carroll, Jingles, O’Neale, Hood, Mitchell and Rubio playoff rotation.