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What I like to look at for second rounders

- Upside - player that might have under performed but "IF" they put it together would be amazing
- Gym Rat - Players that are always in the gym seem to be able to improve (Go figure)
- Work Ethic - self explanatory
- Efficient - this means the player can do things with out dominating the ball
- Has at least 1 NBA skill - This could be anything from defending to shooting to passing
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Honestly, IDK. He seems pretty solid, but I dont see what he does at an elite level. It will be pretty interesting to see what his physical measurements are. He is a good athlete, but I dont think he can really create separation at a NBA level to be a shot creator off the dribble. So with him I guess it's just how well he can defend and shoot the 3, which seem to be solid. I see him as a low ceiling kind of player.

I guess he's pretty comparable to Josh Hart, and he had a solid year. I meant to rank him when I did the position big board, but I forgot about him for some reason.
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I think he’s a better shooter than hart and will be able to create because of his shooting. I’m starting to like too many guys in this draft... I want to see the measurements too... I’ve convinced myself he’s red headed Devin booker.
 
Xthren said:
I have seen Justin Jackson in the second round he would be a steal
Also Omari Spellman Love that guy
Isaac Bonga might slip to the second round that would be the perfect spot to draft him
Rodions Kurucs is probably a second rounder that if drafted in the second round is a low risk high reward type
Matur Maker is another low risk potential High reward pick in the second round
Billy Preston but I think he has a very low basketball IQ and that is a problem for the Jazz
Austin Wiley would be nice if he could play PF
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Agreed on the first 5 points. Preston doesnt just have low BBIQ, hes got low IQ...

Austin Wiley is a big bodied kid, hes gonna be crazy strong in his prime, for Utah he'd be strictly a backup C.
 
Xthren said:
What I like to look at for second rounders

- Upside - player that might have under performed but "IF" they put it together would be amazing
- Gym Rat - Players that are always in the gym seem to be able to improve (Go figure)
- Work Ethic - self explanatory
- Efficient - this means the player can do things with out dominating the ball
- Has at least 1 NBA skill - This could be anything from defending to shooting to passing
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Wake Forest 7footer Doral Moore fits that description and the draft range
 
Bawse Dawg said:
What would it take to move up for Mikal Bridges?
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For starters he's gonna need to fall past the Kings. If they want him and he's on the board their price will be obscene. Then you've gotta worry bout the Nix.

The price would likely be this years 1st, a future unprotected 1st and another asset, maybe Tony Bradleys enough to cut the mustard. I wouldnt get my hopes up.
 
Xthren said:
but he doesn't fit a position of need and if you are drafting in the second round might as well try to help weak spots not draft a 4th man on the depth chart but I like your thinking
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Im expecting Utah to go for "need" in the 1st and a long term project in the 2nd. I've always subscribed to the strategy of drafting/developing backup C's to create trade value, like the Gortat-Dwight Howard situation in Orlando. Its just easier to drum up hype in a limited showcase for these types, plus, Ekpe Udoh is only a temporary band aid. Tony Bradly is a PF/C tweener theres lots of bigs they could draft who' d fit.


Look no further than Moore's play vs Duke this year. Been hyping this kid for years here. Good prospect.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
What would it take to move up for Mikal Bridges?
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I like the idea, but i dont think the jazz have the assetts to move into the lottery. Unless a team is willing to trade a lottery pick for a one year rental of a veteran, but no-one is crazy enough to do that.

I think the only chance would be with charllote where the jazz give up Alec Burks and take back one of Charlotte's awful contracts and they swap picks.
 
mellow said:
I like the idea, but i dont think the jazz have the assetts to move into the lottery. Unless a team is willing to trade a lottery pick for a one year rental of a veteran, but no-one is crazy enough to do that.

I think the only chance would be with charllote where the jazz give up Alec Burks and take back one of Charlotte's awful contracts and they swap picks.
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Last year, would you have thought it crazy to trade pick 24 and Lyles for pick 13?


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Bawse Dawg said:
Okay I’ll give up my Bridges dream
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I really like him too. Seems like a Jazz guy and could play right away.

I never count Lindsey out but he spent a lot of assets trying to keep whats his name.

I wouldn't be suprised if Lindsey does a deal to accumulate assets.
 
I think Mikal Bridges is a safe pick. He's practically Trevor Ariza right now--he'll defend multiple positions, be an above-average shooter on the wing and fill the lanes. He'll fit into the rotation of virtually any team.

However, if you compare Mikal Bridges' freshman and sophomore seasons to what guys like Troy Brown, Zhaire Smith and Lonnie Walker did as freshmen (not considering that Bridges was a red-shirt), you might conclude that these other guys have equal or higher ceilings. These younger players have weaknesses, but they have time to address them and might ultimately have a steeper development curve.

So the question is -- where does Mikal Bridges develop from here? Can he add more of an off-the-dribble game? Can he learn to initiate? Can he add strength and score in the post? Can he add a floater? Etc. He certainly can do these things if he'll work hard.

Troy Brown's ability to play on the ball, initiate offense as a secondary handler, along with his above-average rebounding for a player his size and age, make him a more intriguing prospect to me than Bridges. Brown is only 19. What if he gets to 6'8" and about 225 lbs with a 7-foot wingspan, while maintaining his ability to handle and drive the ball? What if he gets his 3-pt shooting up to 36% in a couple years? That's a solid player.

It comes down to teams' appetite for risk and whether they can project a player to put in the work to reach their ceiling.
 
BTW, I have a problem with Zhaire Smith's inability to handle the ball. That's going to hold him back unless he addresses it right quick. I don't recall seeing many players develop this ability later in their careers. This is one of the things that has held back Andrew Wiggins and one of the main reasons he keeps shooting inefficient shots in the mid-range, rather than maneuvering for a better look.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/05/02/mikal-bridges-really-top-10-talent/

There is a lot of anti-Mikal (at least like as far as him being a top player in this draft) thought going on right now. Not sure I agree with it.
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Interesting article thanks for sharing

I think he could become a Otto Porter Jr type in the NBA but I have said this all along he is a role player and that is how he will need to be drafted. He doesn't have an IT factor. He can coast at times.
 
Xthren said:
Interesting article thanks for sharing

I think he could become a Otto Porter Jr type in the NBA but I have said this all along he is a role player and that is how he will need to be drafted. He doesn't have an IT factor. He can coast at times.
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My complaint on Bridges is that he is super skinny. He seems like the kind of guy who wont be able to add much strength to his frame. Those things can be hard to judge though. Even if the league is going small, there are still guys who can bully you on post-ups if you dont have the strength.
 
Funny *** article making the rounds since yesterday about coach k yelling at Semi Ojeleye's mom when she asked if her son couldd get 5minutes of PT
 
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