Melvin Frazier should be in the workout tomorrow. He is currently in SLC.
Okobo, Simons, and Frazier. 3/6. This could be the most talented workout yet.
Okobo, Simons, and Frazier. 3/6. This could be the most talented workout yet.
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Today my desire is to draft KBD
Simons has lottery-caliber talent. The situation at Louisville put him in a bind and kept him from getting on peoples' radar until now.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Don’t watch many games. What happened at Louisville?
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It's the Pitino situation. He was supposed to go to Louisville (got recruited by Mitchell and is friends with him now) but decided to not go after Pitino got canned.
Feel like Cy is now taking two cushions on the couch and eating all the chips.
This is his new Kuzma.
LoPo
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In terms of help, I see what you are saying to a certain degree. However in the Final Four, Donte simply took over. Many times, he did it with Brunson cheering him on from the sidelines. Donte would stop and pop, pull up from three, take guys off the dribble and run the offense. He did have a good supporting cast, but when he took over, he was in a perfect 6th man scoring role which is what we need.
Keefe
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Listen, I really like Donte but it's one game. Who cares? Remember when Burke single-handedly beat Kansas in the tourney. Yep, neither do I.
LoPo
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Burke is a fair example if you are worried, but the Donte D Final 4 performance coming out party was over 2 games. He had an amazing championship, but he also went from 15, 8 and 3 in the semifinal. And I like the manner in which he dominated. He did it on both ends, hit NBA quality step back 3's, and played physical basketball.
Bawse Dawg
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At this point I want us to trade up for Troy Brown just to see the reactions.
KDB was my guy, and I still thing he’s a great fit. But I feel like there is a decent chance that the first time he shoots a jumpshot in the NBA it will be super obvious that he’ll never be a reliable shooter.
KDB was my guy, and I still thing he’s a great fit. But I feel like there is a decent chance that the first time he shoots a jumpshot in the NBA it will be super obvious that he’ll never be a reliable shooter.
Raul Neto was getting minutes at PG in a playoff game. So...
Bawse Dawg
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The guy I’m looking at if he drops a bit and we have a potential deal to move up is Kevin Knox.
He’d be great.
He’d be great.
KBD has great hands and good scoring instincts to go with his length. He needs to get stronger and play with more motor, but he has potential. He isn't an alpha-scorer, but could be a good complementary player at the 4 with a year to get acclimated. His size and positional versatility as a 4/3 gives him value in the league. His role and impact might be comparable to a Taj Gibson with a bit more offensive versatility. Solid rotation player.
I wouldn't mind if we took KBD. There are just a few guys who have more potential be impact players, putting up 17 - 20 ppg.
Keefe
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I like KBD but I sort of agree with this.
Keefe
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I think I may want Okogie.
I like his super aggressive mindset and motor. That's tough to teach He has very solid length. He had the fastest 3/4 sprint at the combine, the 7th fastest shuttle, and solid lane agility. His vert leap and max vert leap were excellent. So he has (borderline?) elite athleticism, above average length and a very aggressive mindset. He also doesn't turn 20 until September 1st and therefore has perhaps major upside.
Statistically, he shot 74.7% from the line and then 82.1% this past season which indicates he could be an above average shooter. It also shows he developed significantly in that regard. Moreover he gets to the line a ton. 6.5 attempts as a frosh. 6.8 attempts as a sophomore. He also shot over 38% from 3 in both seasons. Lastly, he went up almost across the board in rebounding rate, assist rate and so forth from his freshman to sophomore year. And he did all this with mediocre coaching.
So what are the concerns with him? Shot selection? Defensive intensity? Can someone fill me in here?
Might he just be Burks 2.0? Burks stats in college, minus from the perimeter were pretty damn impressive. He also has underrated length and athleticism. So I'd be a bit concerned that this is a fair comp.
I like his super aggressive mindset and motor. That's tough to teach He has very solid length. He had the fastest 3/4 sprint at the combine, the 7th fastest shuttle, and solid lane agility. His vert leap and max vert leap were excellent. So he has (borderline?) elite athleticism, above average length and a very aggressive mindset. He also doesn't turn 20 until September 1st and therefore has perhaps major upside.
Statistically, he shot 74.7% from the line and then 82.1% this past season which indicates he could be an above average shooter. It also shows he developed significantly in that regard. Moreover he gets to the line a ton. 6.5 attempts as a frosh. 6.8 attempts as a sophomore. He also shot over 38% from 3 in both seasons. Lastly, he went up almost across the board in rebounding rate, assist rate and so forth from his freshman to sophomore year. And he did all this with mediocre coaching.
So what are the concerns with him? Shot selection? Defensive intensity? Can someone fill me in here?
Might he just be Burks 2.0? Burks stats in college, minus from the perimeter were pretty damn impressive. He also has underrated length and athleticism. So I'd be a bit concerned that this is a fair comp.
I think the concerns with Okogie is that he has limited decision making and playmaking if he plays with the ball in his hands. He's not the most polished or sophisticated player, but relies on his raw tools to beat guys. Some of his shot selection was a bit funky as well. He's a guy whose offensive game might remain pretty simple, like one or two-dribble pull-ups, simple straight-line drives, etc. However, if he plays in space and can play with discipline with a defined role in a system, his tools can give him an advantage. Maybe he becomes a guy who only has a couple decent offensive moves, but they're very difficult to stop given his length and athleticism.
So there can be some comparison to Burks. The difference is on the defensive end where Okogies length and athleticism give him potential to wreak havoc in the passing lanes.
I'm still hearing nothing on Gary Trent Jr. He worked out for the Trailblazers last week with other guys who might be in play at #24. Jazz should at least take a look and let him play with the ball in his hands.
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My comp for Zhaire Smith has gone from potential Andre Iguodala to potential Doug Christie.
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Initial look at KBD (watched 1 youtube so i'm a qualified expert):
Too slow to play the 3 in the NBA and too small to play the 4 effectively. So.... NEXT
Too slow to play the 3 in the NBA and too small to play the 4 effectively. So.... NEXT