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Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

LoPo said:
No, but getting those three there to make the pitch in Atlanta was time consuming. I think it's pretty ridiculous that the whole Favors' situation wasn't sorted out either middle of last season (when we decided not to trade him) or right after the playoffs. Why was it necessary to fly to his house on the first day of free agency when most of the valuable players were taken?

I think they went out there to beg him to come back. We will see...
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A few points:
One -- do cell phones not work at airports or hotels?
Two -- doesn't it make sense to keep DL, Quin, and Tony in close proximity to each other for easier consultation in case other offers/deals materialize?
Three -- "Sorting out" the Favors situation last season would have required a significant overpay to get Favors to agree. Why would DL do that?
Four -- They didn't go to Atlanta to "beg" Favors to come back. Do you really think DL is that stupid?
 
Ellipse said:
A few points:
One -- do cell phones not work at airports or hotels?
Two -- doesn't it make sense to keep DL, Quin, and Tony in close proximity to each other for easier consultation in case other offers/deals materialize?
Three -- "Sorting out" the Favors situation last season would have required a significant overpay to get Favors to agree. Why would DL do that?
Four -- They didn't go to Atlanta to "beg" Favors to come back. Do you really think DL is that stupid?
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One - you're so clever

Two - of course

Three - Knowing what Favors wanted and expected should have been established before the lockers were cleaned out. We shouldn't have had to go to Atlanta to know what we needed to keep Favors.

Four - My opinion is that they went to Atlanta to change his mind about leaving. It's not about begging or stupidity.

Five (yeah, I added one) - I wonder how many unrestricted free agents get the entire delegation of Coach, GM and Assistant Coach from the team they were just on come to see them the first day of free agency. I doubt it happens that often.
 
LoPo said:
One - you're so clever

Two - of course

Three - Knowing what Favors wanted and expected should have been established before the lockers were cleaned out. We shouldn't have had to go to Atlanta to know what we needed to keep Favors.

Four - My opinion is that they went to Atlanta to change his mind about leaving. It's not about begging or stupidity.

Five (yeah, I added one) - I wonder how many unrestricted free agents get the entire delegation of Coach, GM and Assistant Coach from the team they were just on come to see them the first day of free agency. I doubt it happens that often.
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So you think the Jazz front office is just stupid.
 
Ellipse said:
So you think the Jazz front office is just stupid.
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How do you get that? I don't think they are stupid. I just find it interesting how we didn't know was needed to keep Favors. The only answer I have is that Favors was intent on leaving and the FO wanted to change his mind. That doesn't make them stupid.
 
Ellipse said:
So you think the Jazz front office is just stupid.
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They've proven to be in free-agency the last couple years. It was pretty obvious to anyone without blinders that Hayward was gone. The fact that they were so oblivious to it was mind boggling. Someone who is staying doesn't act like Hayward acted. I hate to think where we'd be without Mitchell's addition and emergence.
 
If Mitchell is going on social media to try to convince Favors to stay, you know that Favors must be pretty conflicted. No other team sent a delegation to see him (according to reports), we sent the farm to meet with him, and he still hasn't said he's staying.
 
Ellipse said:
A few points:
One -- do cell phones not work at airports or hotels?
Two -- doesn't it make sense to keep DL, Quin, and Tony in close proximity to each other for easier consultation in case other offers/deals materialize?
Three -- "Sorting out" the Favors situation last season would have required a significant overpay to get Favors to agree. Why would DL do that?
Four -- They didn't go to Atlanta to "beg" Favors to come back. Do you really think DL is that stupid?
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Favors was clear that he wanted to test free agency and the only way he let that go was if we highly overpaid. So that made no sense. The only place I see much speculation of Atlanta as an option is on this board and I will be surprised if that happens other than a last choice for Favs. I don't think we are begging him at all. Showing respect by a visit makes a ton of sense if we want him back. If we didn't do that it would be a clear sign that we didn't care.
 
Roy_McAvoy said:
They've proven to be in free-agency the last couple years. It was pretty obvious to anyone without blinders that Hayward was gone. The fact that they were so oblivious to it was mind boggling. Someone who is staying doesn't act like Hayward acted. I hate to think where we'd be without Mitchell's addition and emergence.
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Yeah but it's kinda like the 'you don't try you don't know' sort of situation.

You know the girl's hot and she'd probably say 'no' to you, but you still have hope and ask her out anyway, right?

You don't want to die wondering, do you?
 
Roy_McAvoy said:
They've proven to be in free-agency the last couple years. It was pretty obvious to anyone without blinders that Hayward was gone. The fact that they were so oblivious to it was mind boggling. Someone who is staying doesn't act like Hayward acted. I hate to think where we'd be without Mitchell's addition and emergence.
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So the option is don't try? You miss all of the shots you don't take. In retrospect it does seem obvious but I think very few thought that at the time. IMO it was well worth the risk to do it they way they did. If failing on a free agent means you are stupid then every team in the NBA has that same problem so we have lots of company.
 
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