Leftist attacks Conservative on UC Berkeley Campus

[LogGrad98]

I went to my best friends house last night to watch UFC fights. He is the best of the best. I would do anything for him. I was there best man at his wedding and he was at mine. Known him since we were kids, lived with him in multiple places..... But during the fights him and another of my good friends were saying the n word over and over again. Like constantly. They would look at me weird when I would use the term black fighter or black guy. Like I was a PC liberal snowflake ***** for not calling them the n word. Talking about how they should thank you for slavery cause it made them evolve into a stronger more athletic race. They also mostly hate women and don't think they should be in the UFC or be able to do a lot of things they can do. Even made the comment "they got the ability to vote, why do they still bitch about women power and equality?". Saddens me to hear them talk that way. I think we have kind of grown a little apart because of my more progressive views.

And again, I think my best friend is one of the best people in the world. But the racism and women hate sure does suck.

And yes, they support Trump.

They were also arguing with me about how they think that when things like Ray rice knocking out his girlfriend happen it shouldn't get reported, the NFL shouldn't punish them and they shouldn't lose their livelihood. The law should just handle it and it shouldn't a media story.
I tried to explain that they represent the NFL and the NFL should be able to punish them for not following policies and hurting the image of their company. They simply disagreed. Sad.

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Wow fish. That's crazy. I think I'd part ways myself.

 

[Hotdog]

Can you imagine these people fighting the military

 

[Hotdog]

I havent laughed that hard at something on here.

Hack just made a post that said Im not racist I have a black friend.

Haha

Ya, didnt want to because I knew this would be the next play.

Its true though.

I think it fit into the context of the argument. Had to be done.

You are a racist Ron Mexico.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Haha

Ya, didnt want to because I knew this would be the next play.

Its true though.

I think it fit into the context of the argument. Had to be done.

You are a racist Ron Mexico.

I am sure you felt that way. You had no choice...

 

[fishonjazz]

Wow fish. That's crazy. I think I'd part ways myself.

And I get why you say that. But I never will
He is kind, thoughtful, generous, fun loving, positive, happy, reliable, trustworthy, loyal and there is no one I would rather hang out with. I think everyone has bad qualities and good qualities. When I put them on the scale for this particular person the good far outweigh the bad. For me anyway.

I also usually weigh how a person treats me and other people in their life as carrying much more weight than how they generalize people that they don't come into contact with.

I don't like it and it makes him not perfect for sure.

I also think they see what they are saying as harmless and victimless. They actually don't do anything to minorites that has any effect on them.

Like I said though, I totally get why you think I should part ways as you don't understand our bond and our relationship and would never be able to. The **** we been through together....... Man oh man. I might be dead if not for him. He has been there for me and helped me and saved me so many times and I have for him as well. He has brought so much joy to my life. I hope we continue to get together until the day we die.

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[Hotdog]

And I get why you say that. But I never will
He is kind, thoughtful, generous, fun loving, positive, happy, reliable, trustworthy, loyal and there is no one I would rather hang out with. I think everyone has bad qualities and good qualities. When I put them on the scale for this particular person the good far outweigh the bad. For me anyway.

I also usually weigh how a person treats me and other people in their life as carrying much more weight than how they generalize people that they don't come into contact with.

I don't like it and it makes him not perfect for sure.

I also think they see what they are saying as harmless and victimless. They actually don't do anything to minorites that has any effect on them.

Like I said though, I totally get why you think I should part ways as you don't understand our bond and our relationship and would never be able to. The **** we been through together....... Man oh man. I might be dead if not for him. He has been there for me and helped me and saved me so many times and I have for him as well. He has brought so much joy to my life. I hope we continue to get together until the day we die.

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You have nothing to worry about either. The Liberals will give you a pass. Im 100% sure not a single one of these leftist liberals will give you any **** over it.

Notice how it was loggrad who spoke up? He leans right.

See, its never been about race. The left just uses it as a weapon. They dont really care. It all boils down to wanting free stuff. They will stoop to any level to get a handout or an easy way out. Thats where killing babies comes in. They will kill their own offspring just so they dont have to work.

 

[fishonjazz]

You have nothing to worry about either. The Liberals will give you a pass. Im 100% sure not a single one of these leftist liberals will give you any **** over it.

Notice how it was loggrad who spoke up? He leans right.

See, its never been about race. The left just uses it as a weapon. They dont really care. It all boils down to wanting free stuff. They will stoop to any level to get a handout or an easy way out. Thats where killing babies comes in. They will kill their own offspring just so they dont have to work.

I don't care if the liberals or any one else gives me a pass. If they want to give me **** for being friends with him then Im fine with that and would understand where they are coming from.
I can usually put myself in someone's else's shoes and see their perspective. Thinking I should part ways with my friend is a perspective I understand and makes sense. But I won't part ways due to our relationship that anyone on the outside looking in could never be expected to understand.

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[Keefe]

I’m curious how you’d feel if he’s like that around your wife and daughter.

 

[fishonjazz]

I’m curious how you’d feel if he’s like that around your wife and daughter.

I would let them judge for themselves but my wife adores him because he is extremely kind to her, he makes her laugh a ton, he is easy for her to talk to, he is really positive, easy going. I mean everyone who knows him loves him.
I would want him to marry my wife and help her raise my daughter if I died. He is the best person I know. I understand how there is contradictory stuff here. How can he say racist and sexist stuff and still be such a wonderful guy. I agree, it's strange. True though.

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[fishonjazz]

I’m curious how you’d feel if he’s like that around your wife and daughter.

Also he doesnt use the n word so freely around everyone of course. It's 2019 and he is very intelligent. He doesn't just walk around throwing the n word up to anyone and everyone. There were a total of 3 of us at his house for the portion of the discussion that I mentioned that was in very poor taste.

I don't say the same **** around strangers, or family, or co workers as I do with my homies.

He doesn't talk the same with my wife and daughter present. Neither do I. I swear much less for example. My wife knows he says that **** though and loves him anyway cause he is awesome.

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[fishonjazz]

Black people, Hispanics, Polynesians, all love him too for the same reasons I do. He is kind and fun and positive and easy going when around people of color too. There is no hatred for anyone. He says things he shouldn't say because he is stuck in his ways and a bit ignorant of the words meaning not cause he wants to put on hood on and lynch someone.
His says some cringy stuff but there isn't any ill intent behind it.

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[Hotdog]

LMAO

This forum's favorite guy is like, ya I hang around the KKK. They are really good people.

Nothing but crickets.

I say things like the media is biased. Socialism sucks, liberals are dumb, and I get the labels, outrage, and vitriol.

****ing hilarious. You all must be in shock. Not sure what to do now.

 

[fishonjazz]

LMAO

This forum's favorite guy is like, ya I hang around the KKK. They are really good people.

Nothing but crickets.

I say things like the media is biased. Socialism sucks, liberals are dumb, and I get the labels, outrage, and vitriol.

****ing hilarious. You all must be in shock. Not sure what to do now.

Lol at kkk comment. We grew up thinking we were little gangbangers. Nothing but gansta rap. We talked a certain way. We were around the drug game a lot and had a certain culture around us a lot. We said ****** knock instead of doorbell ditch. We said ****** rig. We grew up in a different world.

Some people are more resistant to change though.

I have been around more atmosphere to help influence me to change. This forum often puts me in check and inspires me to change for the better. (Life on a plate comes to mind)
I still like the gamethread girls although I shouldn't objectify women. I ain't perfect. I try to change and adapt. My wife had helped me change for better. Co workers. (I'm in an office atmosphere.). He hasn't had the same type of influences and hasn't had the same amount of progression that I have. He doesn't want to hurt anyone. He isn't hateful. He isn't kkk or anything resembling that.



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[Stoked]

Well Fish, to me it’s not about what he has or hasn’t done or said. It’s about what you’re willing to accept and be around.

I’m with Log.

 

[fishonjazz]

Well Fish, to me it’s not about what he has or hasn’t done or said. It’s about what you’re willing to accept and be around.

I’m with Log.

I'm fine with that take.

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[Hotdog]

Fish Logic

Trump is a racist(never said anything racist)

Friend who who says the worst racist things = Great human being

Alfalfa and Ron Mexico logic

Must call guy who has never said anything racist a racist.

Refuse to call guy who hangs out with the KKK a racist, because he's a good guy.

Lmao. This **** couldn't be any easier.

 

[olden_undercover]

LMAO

This forum's favorite guy is like, ya I hang around the KKK. They are really good people.

Nothing but crickets.

I say things like the media is biased. Socialism sucks, liberals are dumb, and I get the labels, outrage, and vitriol.

****ing hilarious. You all must be in shock. Not sure what to do now.

Uh, no.

People who identify themselves on this forum as far-anything, and then proceed to prove it every chance they get, are called out. Thriller, for example, gets just as much **** for his hard line, left-wing stance as you do for your hard line, right-wing stance. You aren't right, dude; it's just that the truth is somewhere in the middle, and you have such deep distaste for the idea of moving anywhere left of where you stand that you can't handle it. You are just as bad as the far-left types, though, demanding that the entire world somehow line up on one side or the other and commence spitting at each other. It's dogmatic as hell. How can you not see that?

And Fish has more than proved himself to be a good-hearted, level-headed guy around here. If he chooses to use his best judgment in deciding whether or not a person we know absolutely nothing about-- beyond that single post he made describing one night where his friend acted in a disappointing way-- that's his prerogative. Most of us can respect him for being moderate, and deciding to treat even those who speak/act despicably with some dignity, if he believes they have earned it. I, for one, would give you the same respect if you described a similar personal situation/experience.

Edit: You know, and one more thing... How is anybody following an extremist view going to be convinced to alter their beliefs and behaviors, if not by people who show that compromise is possible? You're not persuading anybody around here by spewing vitriol. People like Fish, who can accept that others have faults, yet believe they are capable of change, are far more likely to succeed at influencing our polarized society in a positive way than anyone at either end of this insane black-or-white ideology being shoved down our throats.

 

[Hotdog]

Uh, no.

People who identify themselves on this forum as far-anything, and then proceed to prove it every chance they get, are called out. Thriller, for example, gets just as much **** for his hard line, left-wing stance as you do for your hard line, right-wing stance. You aren't right, dude; it's just that the truth is somewhere in the middle, and you have such deep distaste for the idea of moving anywhere left of where you stand that you can't handle it. You are just as bad as the far-left types, though, demanding that the entire world somehow line up on one side or the other and commence spitting at each other. It's dogmatic as hell. How can you not see that?

And Fish has more than proved himself to be a good-hearted, level-headed guy around here. If he chooses to use his best judgment in deciding whether or not a person we know absolutely nothing about-- beyond that single post he made describing one night where his friend acted in a disappointing way-- that's his prerogative. Most of us can respect him for being moderate, and deciding to treat even those who speak/act despicably with some dignity, if he believes they have earned it. I, for one, would give you the same respect if you described a similar personal situation/experience.

The problem with you argument is Im not far right. Neither are most Trump supporters. Its the far left that has emerged to the forefront and thats what I rag on. So otherwise I would agree with your opinions.

If I am center right and the opposition I speak of is far left, then it may appear Im far right if the far left is mistakenly viewed as center left or moderate. Which imo is 100% the case going on here.

If the real far right were to emerge and have as much relevance and coverage as the far left gets today, then I would be ragging on them just as much or more., and have just as much disdain for them.

Im sorry, but I dont see Fox News putting KKK members on the tube and normalizing them. The left main stream media not only give far leftism a platform, but they actively push it, while simultaneously misrepresenting conservatives.

How can you not see that?

 

[fishonjazz]

Uh, no.

People who identify themselves on this forum as far-anything, and then proceed to prove it every chance they get, are called out. Thriller, for example, gets just as much **** for his hard line, left-wing stance as you do for your hard line, right-wing stance. You aren't right, dude; it's just that the truth is somewhere in the middle, and you have such deep distaste for the idea of moving anywhere left of where you stand that you can't handle it. You are just as bad as the far-left types, though, demanding that the entire world somehow line up on one side or the other and commence spitting at each other. It's dogmatic as hell. How can you not see that?

And Fish has more than proved himself to be a good-hearted, level-headed guy around here. If he chooses to use his best judgment in deciding whether or not a person we know absolutely nothing about-- beyond that single post he made describing one night where his friend acted in a disappointing way-- that's his prerogative. Most of us can respect him for being moderate, and deciding to treat even those who speak/act despicably with some dignity, if he believes they have earned it. I, for one, would give you the same respect if you described a similar personal situation/experience.

Edit: You know, and one more thing... How is anybody following an extremist view going to be convinced to alter their beliefs and behaviors, if not by people who show that compromise is possible? You're not persuading anybody around here by spewing vitriol. People like Fish, who can accept that others have faults, yet believe they are capable of change, are far more likely to succeed at influencing our polarized society in a positive way than anyone at either end of this insane black-or-white ideology being shoved down our throats.

Thanks man.

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[olden_undercover]

The problem with you argument is Im not far right. Neither are most Trump supporters. Its the far left that has emerged to the forefront and thats what I rag on. So otherwise I would agree with your opinions.

If I am center right and the opposition I speak of is far left, then it may appear Im far right if the far left is mistakenly viewed as center left or moderate. Which imo is 100% the case going on here.

If the real far right were to emerge and have as much relevance and coverage as the far left gets today, then I would be ragging on them just as much or more., and have just as much disdain for them.

Im sorry, but I dont see Fox News putting KKK members on the tube and normalizing them. The left main stream media not only give far leftism a platform, but they actively push it, while simultaneously misrepresenting conservatives.

How can you not see that?

See what, the liberal media's agenda? What makes you think I don't? CNN is as bad as Fox News, just much better at delivering its propaganda in a way that doesn't insult the intelligence of anyone with higher than a 5th-grade education. There you go.

And look-- seriously, if you really do consider yourself to be centrist/moderate, then cool. But you might consider balancing your attacks a smidge, because you pretty consistently go after anyone left of you, moderate or extreme, and conveniently say nothing critical about anyone or anything on the conservative spectrum. I'm happy to concede this is a misperception, if you believe I am mistaken and have a compelling argument.