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No, I don't but there were a lot invasions, and the Carthaginians were among them, and as you probably know they were from Africa, Hannibal etc -- probably where I got the trace of ancestry
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Alfalfa
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Ah, no. Carthage was built by Phoenicians from Lebanon.
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From Quora:
In ancient tradition, the Phoenicians migrated to the area from “the Red Sea”at some point in the distant past — but the one written account is confusing because the author sometimes uses “Red Sea” the way we do and sometimes uses it to mean what we’d call the Persian Gulf. Since Phoenician was a Northwest Semitic language, closely related to Hebrew, it’s more likely that the Red Sea in question is ours. In any case they would resemble modern Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians and Sephardi Jews: modern genetic studies use haplogroup J2 as a proxy for this rough grouping. It shows a noticeable concentration in the eastern Mediterranean, but there are also strong traces in coastal North Africa where the old Carthaginian empire was centered.
Over time the Carthaginians intermarried with their neighbors, first the Libyans to their east and later with the Numidians to their west. Both of those peoples were related to the modern Berber peoples of North Africa. Hannibal’s sister, for example, married a Numidian king, and the tragic romance of the Numidian king Masinissa and the Carthaginian noblewoman Sophonisba was a popular subject for operas and plays until the 18th century.
Alfalfa
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I'm watching the game now.
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So am I
Alfalfa
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Okay Time out. None of these people are black. Typically the word black refers to sub-Saharan Africans in modern usage. And not North Africans, who have different phenotypes. Please stop copying and pasting without understanding.
More importantly, everyone is mixed with everyone else. Of course the people of Carthage have sub-Saharan blood in them. Mainland Africa --> Ethiopia --> Yemen --> Arabia --> Levant. Give me the rest of your lineage, and I'll find you some link to any major group of people on Earth. Then there's the history of slavery in the US.
More more importantly, do you understand how genetic profiles work? They gather samples from all over the globe, and see how your sample compare to them statistically. There is no gene that defines any race group. And no scientific definition for what a race even is.
So those genes that caused a statistical hit in your case could've been from anywhere, or nowhere. Your speculation about Sicily is not very substantive.
Thank goodness we have yet another white guy telling us how oversensitive people are about race. After all, if a white guy doesn't understand the impact race has on society, who possibly could?
reignman40
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Who would anyway? That would be awkward. Not one time in my life have I had the desire to call any random person I don't know "uncle".
Alfalfa
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It's perfectly normal in some cultures. But ya, uncle is very uncommon nowadays in the US.
reignman40
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One Brow you need to stil
Maybe you could treat everyone as equal?? Maybe not berate people for being "staggering uninformed". Just because someone grew up somewhere else and in a different culture doesn't make them hateful.
Maybe you could treat everyone as equal?? Maybe not berate people for being "staggering uninformed". Just because someone grew up somewhere else and in a different culture doesn't make them hateful.
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The fact is that my comment was not malicious and if you had lived with black people in your household for a decade like me, you would understand where I'm coming from. I guess since most people here don't know me and are mostly white, they don't get it. If this site was mostly black and they knew me, they would just laugh at what I posted.