Darkwing Duck
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So you're saying 5 years straight in the conference finals is mediocrity?
My thoughts on Hayward
- Thread starter Craig K. Manscill
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Mambo
Member
I love how youre avoiding the question.
No, but the 3+ years after of being a lottery team is.
The point is they won 1 ring then were done, and kept getting worse for a few-bunch of years.
Chad Feldheimer
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From 02-03 to 07-08 (6 straight years) they(DET) were either in the Conference Finals or NBA or Won the Finals. Pretty mediocre I guess?
Plus most teams who win championships or are teams that get deep in the playoff have a rebuilding process after. Like the Bulls, Celtics, Lakers... Isn't this common knowledge?
Craig K. Manscill
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Hey GUYS,,,
Thanks for the welcoming thoughts and prayers. I'll keep that in mind when I check out this board. I don't let the negativity get to me. When it comes to the Jazz, I see a team that tries hard every night and drafted a player that will make shots and get rebounds. Hayward is a guy that puts it all out on the court and can put the ball in the basket every night. Thanks for listening.
-Craig
Thanks for the welcoming thoughts and prayers. I'll keep that in mind when I check out this board. I don't let the negativity get to me. When it comes to the Jazz, I see a team that tries hard every night and drafted a player that will make shots and get rebounds. Hayward is a guy that puts it all out on the court and can put the ball in the basket every night. Thanks for listening.
-Craig
Mambo
Member
Im talking about the teams this decade that won 1 ring, and that was it. All 3 I listed had 4+ seasons from 00-09 of a losing record besides Detroit who only had 3.
My point is. I dont think the FO nor most Jazz fans are willing to have one year where we take it all and have a few sub par/lottery seasons that follows.
Darkwing Duck
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Avoiding? Or preferring to not answer an irrelevant question?
Especially since you're making absolutely no sense and going off in all directions. You specify Detroit and then talk about 3+ years of being a lottery team. This year was the first year the Pistons were in the lottery, six years after winning a title. They've been in the lottery one year. I have no idea how to reply to that.
Chad Feldheimer
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Come on they are clearly not up to the standard of the 76-77 Portland Trailblazers!
Darkwing Duck
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Because making all the moves that you believe should happen guarantees the Jazz to be one of those teams instead of one hit playoff wonders like the Warriors, Clippers, and then go back into the rebuilding for the thirtieth time.
NAOS
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Mambo
Member
I guess we can keep that state of mind "Hey guys, atleast were better than the warriors and clippers!"
Mambo
Member
If you wouldve read my post it was during the 00-09 decade.
Darkwing Duck
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So you're saying that the Jazz should be mocked for being better than those teams instead of being those two teams. Gotcha.
Darkwing Duck
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Ok...where does the 3+ years come in? Heat were in the lottery one year. Two years after their title. Celtics haven't been since their title. Pistons 6 years after their title...
If you're arguing before the title, than you advocate trading Deron Williams for draft picks so we can rebuild to these titles you're guarantee will happen if the Jazz are in the lottery for a few years.
Mambo
Member
No dumb ***, what im saying, and the question I asked you. The jazz are better than all of the 3 teams listed at the moment.
But in exchange for a championship would you be willing to take the route they did after? Winning 1 ring and not having a chance for another for 5+ years.
Chad Feldheimer
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Jazz can't afford to do that. They start losing, fans stop coming and with their revenue stream more than a couple of bad years would put them in a deep water.
Mambo
Member
So what youre saying is basically we should settle with competing for our division and making 1st and 2nd round exits. I love the plan.
Darkwing Duck
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But they did have a chance to win one after winning the first one. Boston losing in 7 ring a bell? Detroit losing in 7 ring a bell? Your examples don't match your question.
Chad Feldheimer
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Yes that's it.
KOC: Hey Greg why don't you spend luxury tax type dollars.
Miller: How do you think we will do?
KOC: Well the goal is 1st round of playoffs
Miller: Sign me up.
Mambo
Member
You need to understand my point. They didnt win another title.
Darkwing Duck
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So your question is, "Would you rather root for a team that won one championship when having a chance for six or a team that didn't win one when having a chance for six?" If so, then it's kind of a wash for me.