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If the Jazz has the guts to trade Conley, then...

What were the Jazz suppose to do to please people who didn't want Conley? Keep Favors and Rubio and never try to contend? That roster, as much fun as they were, had limits. There just wasn't enough offensive firepower. This team with Bogdanovic and Conley has a much higher ceiling. They had to take a chance.
 
I think it was actually more. I was not on board all the way from the first rumors last year at this time. We spent way too much to get an aging heavily over-payed undersized ball-dominant guard. Way too much. And now we are stuck and, frankly, playing better ball with him not playing. This sucks.
This is starting to feel like the Iraq War in 2009 all over again.

Sure, everyone was against it. Everyone knew it was a bad idea. Sure.
 
What were the Jazz suppose to do to please people who didn't want Conley?

Go into free agency with hella money
Have draft picks to use to draft players or use in trades.

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DL: Hey, Justin, we’re willing to promote you if you’ll agree to one thing...

Zanik: Sure, boss, what’s this all about?

DL: Tradition

Zanik: sure, no problem, tradition is for culture as memory is for individuals, so it must be important. Tell me more.

DL: You must continue to throw hella assets at aging point guards forever. Let this one position be like the imperfect stitch in a rug: proof that you aren’t God.

Zanik: ok. Let’s go get Conley. This will leverage the entire rebuild on a 6’ guard over 30. What’s better than this?
 
Not a Conley deal, but I think if we're looking to move Conley (other than in a CP3/Love/Griffin something like that swap), then I think we should seriously look at moving Bogdanovic as well. His value is probably relatively high now, try to pick up a younger talent that can fit longer term with Mitchell/Gobert.

Russell from GS? (better fit with the injured stars and lets them roll over the Iguodala TPE into an even bigger one)
Winslow/Olynyk from Miami? (gets Miami under the tax)
THJ/picks from Dallas? (Dallas decides they're ready)
Harkless/young guys from Clippers? (probably only cause I really like Shamet)

Would need to include Davis in a couple of these, but don't think that changes too much. Looking at Dallas again they're actually pretty low on picks already from the KP deal, so there may be no way to do that.
 
Not a Conley deal, but I think if we're looking to move Conley (other than in a CP3/Love/Griffin something like that swap), then I think we should seriously look at moving Bogdanovic as well. His value is probably relatively high now, try to pick up a younger talent that can fit longer term with Mitchell/Gobert.

Russell from GS? (better fit with the injured stars and lets them roll over the Iguodala TPE into an even bigger one)
Winslow/Olynyk from Miami? (gets Miami under the tax)
THJ/picks from Dallas? (Dallas decides they're ready)
Harkless/young guys from Clippers? (probably only cause I really like Shamet)

Would need to include Davis in a couple of these, but don't think that changes too much. Looking at Dallas again they're actually pretty low on picks already from the KP deal, so there may be no way to do that.

No. Neg repped so hard.
 
This is starting to feel like the Iraq War in 2009 all over again.

Sure, everyone was against it. Everyone knew it was a bad idea. Sure.
Meh, go read the threads.
 
The Jazz aren't going to trade Conley, it's just not going to happen. Many of you have spent a lot of time typing different scenarios on how/who/where etc. Stop wasting your time. He was actually starting to shoot much better than the first few games where he couldn't throw it in the ocean from the pier. He just needs to continue remembering how to pass and dribble and all will be well. The complexity of the offense has him panicked a bit, at least that's the only feasible explanation for how he's played so out of character. And no, we are not better without him. It seems Joe has somewhat played himself into shape, so going forward they should start to approximate the team we thought they were more than the steamy pile they've been.
 
Listened to the Woj and Lowe show part on the Jazz... not a lot there but it sounds like we aren’t looking to make a minor move let alone a big move. Woj says we aren’t making calls Zach says we should be...
 
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