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(CNN) -- Texas Rep. Ron Paul won a California straw poll, the state Republican Party announced in a statement Saturday night.A total of 833 ballots were cast during the straw poll, the statement said.
Paul won with 44.9% of the votes, Texas Gov. Rick Perry came in second with 29.3% of the votes, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney came in third with 8.8% of the votes.
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My man pickin' up the W. Way to go only candidate not lying through your teeth. I wish you well.
 
Paul vs. Obama would be the greatest thing that ever happened to American politics. The amount of voting fraud alone would be staggering.
 
No where near as much as when the dems tried to steal the election in 2000.
 
It would be 100 X worse. Gore/Bush was just infighting between factions within the same group. As will be Romney/Obama or Perry/Obama should it come to that. I think US politics is basically a sham, but Paul/Obama would finally actually represent completely opposite things. I think we might even be able to call it a choice this time around were it to happen. Add that with the technological "improvements" to voting that are easier to manipulate and Union ballbusters, and we could have quite the show.
 
Paul has a few good ideas but getting rid of the entire federal government would be a disaster. Straw polls have as much credibility as preseason sports predictions.
 
cowhide said:
Republicans whining about voter fraud. THanks for the laugh today.
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I am not a republican. But I can sure recognize an attempt at a highly selective (and biased) recount when I see it. Love those partisan blinders.
 
Does America really think that Ron Paul would be a good President?

We all joke around about crazy things... Like how it would be awesome if Karl Malone were coach... Or if Jerry kicked some refs ***....

But those are all jokes. Kinda like this Ron Paul thing, right?
 
The Thriller said:
Does America really think that Ron Paul would be a good President?

We all joke around about crazy things... Like how it would be awesome if Karl Malone were coach... Or if Jerry kicked some refs ***....

But those are all jokes. Kinda like this Ron Paul thing, right?
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Most likely. I don't think he would be a bad president though. He would most likely give the worst speeches though (which is sadly what most presidents are judged by).
 
He definitely does look and sound like he could collapse at any moment, but with Peter Schiff as his VP we should have nothing to worry about.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Most likely. I don't think he would be a bad president though. He would most likely give the worst speeches though (which is sadly what most presidents are judged by).
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Hmmm...

I'm just continually amazed at our political digression in just my lifetime. I read textbooks of when we actually had smart, educated, and inspiring leaders. And today, I look at both parties, and almost feel like I'm living in a dream world... A joke...

lets take the current batch of GOP candidates right now. You have a sexy reality tv star who slept with Glen Rice with a Bach degree in journalism from Univ of Idaho. She claimed one time that she could see Russia from her house... And who embarrassed the McCain campaign with her ridiculous answers on the economy... A governor from Texas whose calling card is that he created thousands of telemarketer jobs and for calling SS a ponzi scheme.... A billionaire governor from Mass who says anything to get elected, fails to identify with the middle class, and rants against "Washington" despite living in castle after castle and asking Utahns to join in his $500 per plate fund raisers??? Some crazy *** old fart (paul) who makes sense on some issues but is friggin crazy on others... An inactive Mormon from Utah born into luxury who is being badmouthed for working in the Obama administration (he's moderate, but I question his qualifications)... A rich farmer chick who wants to get rid of the EPA, SS, and basically everything else that matters to people (but is pretty sexy too)... Seriously, does Bachmann inspire anyone? I mean, seriously?! It would make more sense in my brain to see Mark Cuban, Jerry Sloan, hell, even Kobe Bryant run for President instead of her.

How will the textbooks remember 2012?

A campaign of dumber and dumber?

Obama isn't incredible by any stretch of the imagination. But the GOP's candidates either seem way too fake to me, stupid, or just not inspiring to me. Although, two of them could make one hell of a beer commercial mud wrestling...
 
So if you consider textbook love to be the most presidential of all ambitions and the greatness which all future presidents should be measured by, I'm curious who the textbooks taught you were great presidents. Who from the 20th century was a great president Thriller in your estimation?
 
Duck Rodgers said:
So if you consider textbook love to be the most presidential of all ambitions and the greatness which all future presidents should be measured by, I'm curious who the textbooks taught you were great presidents. Who from the 20th century was a great president Thriller in your estimation?
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BC!
 
The Thriller said:
Hmmm...

I'm just continually amazed at our political digression in just my lifetime. I read textbooks of when we actually had smart, educated, and inspiring leaders. And today, I look at both parties, and almost feel like I'm living in a dream world... A joke...

lets take the current batch of GOP candidates right now. You have a sexy reality tv star who slept with Glen Rice with a Bach degree in journalism from Univ of Idaho. She claimed one time that she could see Russia from her house... And who embarrassed the McCain campaign with her ridiculous answers on the economy... A governor from Texas whose calling card is that he created thousands of telemarketer jobs and for calling SS a ponzi scheme.... A billionaire governor from Mass who says anything to get elected, fails to identify with the middle class, and rants against "Washington" despite living in castle after castle and asking Utahns to join in his $500 per plate fund raisers??? Some crazy *** old fart (paul) who makes sense on some issues but is friggin crazy on others... An inactive Mormon from Utah born into luxury who is being badmouthed for working in the Obama administration (he's moderate, but I question his qualifications)... A rich farmer chick who wants to get rid of the EPA, SS, and basically everything else that matters to people (but is pretty sexy too)... Seriously, does Bachmann inspire anyone? I mean, seriously?! It would make more sense in my brain to see Mark Cuban, Jerry Sloan, hell, even Kobe Bryant run for President instead of her.

How will the textbooks remember 2012?

A campaign of dumber and dumber?

Obama isn't incredible by any stretch of the imagination. But the GOP's candidates either seem way too fake to me, stupid, or just not inspiring to me. Although, two of them could make one hell of a beer commercial mud wrestling...
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From that rant, Paul seems to be the most credible.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
From that rant, Paul seems to be the most credible.
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I also love the part of his comment I hear often, "I like what he says on some issues, but on others hes just friggin' crazy" (paraphrased). What we have here, folks, is a person with an entire vision based on principles. Not popularity, not expedience, not utility. Ron Paul thinks there is a right way to do things, not issue by issue, but by a governing philosophy based on individual freedom. Obviously that conflicts with a lot of things we assume have to be a certain way. In those cases he's "crazy."

Well, he's the only person I believe is actually telling the truth. Period.

That said. The very worst thing that could ever happen to the Libertarian movement would be for Ron Paul, or someone actually running as a Libertarian, to get elected to the white house. I'm of the opinion that with full-fledged libertarian ideals you simply can't get there from here. Piece-meal implementation of libertarian policies would certainly be disastrous. Our economy, our culture is based on the way things work today. To simply start cutting our current system to shreds in the name of Libertarianism would be stupid.
 
Am I the only one wondering why Ron Paul spent literally decades as the lone voice of dissent in Washington against the Fed and then promptly retires from Congress the moment he gets any real power (as Chairman on Domestic Monetary Policy)?

He's not going to win the election - the "crazy guy" campaign against him will start as soon as the primaries heat up. And I sersiouly doubt Romney or Perry would touch this guy with a 10 foot pole when it comes to any high ranking cabinet position.

Sorry, while I'm sure he believe most of what he says, I think this guy is just another empty suit.
 
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