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Big Al on Millsap

NotDeadYet

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Say's here Millsap has in fact been working on playing SF so Favors can move into the starting lineup at PF. If he shows Coach Ty he can do this, I'd be surprised to see AK back in a Jazz uniform, unless CJ gets traded. Personally I doubt AK will accept much of a pay cut, nor do I think the Jazz would pick his "age" over CJ's "youth" and his game that's still developing...
Millsap could still play some PF when matchups are favorable. That's something I think Coach Ty will be keeping a close eye on during games; MATCHUPS!
https://www.aljefferson25.com/news/back-court-utah/2011/11/09
 
I would just tell him to study some Paul Pierce game film. He is about the only SF I see in the NBA who is physically and athletically comparable to Millsap.
 
I have few concerns about Millsap adjusting on the offensive end. He will be able to post small forwards and I expect he will continue to improve his 3 point shot.

Defensive I struggle to see him getting over ball screens and around off the ball screens. We may have to play more zone.
 
Qman said:
I have few concerns about Millsap adjusting on the offensive end. He will be able to post small forwards and I expect he will continue to improve his 3 point shot.

Defensive I struggle to see him getting over ball screens and around off the ball screens. We may have to play more zone.
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Except we've never posted 3's in the past. I don't see Millsap being effective shooting off screens on the run, and he can't drive. Tweaking the offense to suit his talents could make him more effective so it will be interesting to see what Ty does.
 
Corbin must have asked him to do this before the season ended. I don't think he would have just gone freelance training to be a SF if he didn't know thats what coach wanted.
 
I can see him sliming down and being at least an adequate defender at the sf position because of his workman like attitude, but can he develop the skills needed to be adequate on offense as a sf, can he handle the ball drive shoot off screens. As far as I know he has played pf his whole career. If he can I'm all for it and puts the Jazz in a better position to win.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Corbin must have asked him to do this before the season ended. I don't think he would have just gone freelance training to be a SF if he didn't know thats what coach wanted.
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I'm not a hundred percent sure Ty asked him to do anything. The article is written by a bleacher report guy who is speculating. And Millsap should be trying to develop a 3 point shot, anyway. It's not like we don't have a history of bigs who step out to the arc. If he can hit that shot, he could start playing an Okur styled role pulling up on 3's on the break and dragging his man out of the paint to let Al go to work.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Corbin must have asked him to do this before the season ended. I don't think he would have just gone freelance training to be a SF if he didn't know thats what coach wanted.
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Exactly. Im just thinking how this is gonna work three-five years from now. Will Sap still be on this team? where does that leave Burks and Hayward? I guess it all depends on how successful of a SF he becomes. His work ethic is utterly admirable though. Most players would much rather request a trade and keep their strengths intact than trying to switch a position several years into the NBA. I still think his optimal position in the future is a sixth man, with Harris/whoever we draft, Burks, Haywad, Favors, then either Jefferson or Kanter depending on who pans out better. I really think he could deliver Bill Walton type effectiveness. But who knows what will happen
 
I think Sap can do it. He will have problems with the faster smaller SFs but those SFs will also have a huge problem guarding him. I also think he could become a good enough 3 point shooter. He has added something to his game every single year and no reason to think he hasnt done it again for this coming season.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I would just tell him to study some Paul Pierce game film. He is about the only SF I see in the NBA who is physically and athletically comparable to Millsap.
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I'm on board with that. Artest/Meta is another guy with a similar body. Sap will be fine if he can match the intensity of those guys' defense.
 
billyshelby said:
I'm not a hundred percent sure Ty asked him to do anything. The article is written by a bleacher report guy who is speculating. And Millsap should be trying to develop a 3 point shot, anyway. It's not like we don't have a history of bigs who step out to the arc. If he can hit that shot, he could start playing an Okur styled role pulling up on 3's on the break and dragging his man out of the paint to let Al go to work.
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Okur is our history of bigs stepping out to the 3 pt line.
Am I missing any others? Did Foster?
 
No, Okur's it. Didn't mean to imply KOC is always beating the bushes for big men with 3 point range. Just that we used that model for 6 years.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
What can Paul Pierce do defensively that Millsap won't be able to?
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When the Celts were really good they had that great interior defense. Anyone that got by Paul would have to contend with Garnett or Perkins.
Hopefully,Favors can be the defensive stopper we need him to be then Sap could get away with more. If Favors and Big Al can defend the interior better than Boozer, and Memo I think it could work. A line up of Harris, Hayward, Sap, Big Al, and Favors sounds delicious in theory.
 
billyshelby said:
No, Okur's it. Didn't mean to imply KOC is always beating the bushes for big men with 3 point range. Just that we used that model for 6 years.
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SFs aren't necessarily supposed to be big, but it's sure helpful for them to have 3-point range.

Thus, if Millsap plays the 3, it's not necessarily a bonus that he can shoot the 3; it's almost expected, as shown by CJ and Korver also playing that spot at times (and AK being woefully inconsistent in that aspect although he might be strong in 5x5 others).

And if Favors and Jefferson are playing a lot alongside each other, then it'll probably be crowded inside the 10-foot range for Millsap to go there much offensively--except maybe Brewer-style. So the Paperboy had better be able to put the paper in the hoop from the curb.

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Yeah, because those guys are shut down routinely by solid SF defenders...
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I could see Millsap getting to the point where he can sometimes annoy LeBron. PM has a bigger build than most SFs and wouldn't be intimidated by LBJ's strength. I don't consider LeBrawn particularly fast, either.

I like the strategic analysis going on here of actually trying to compete against matchups individually and globally.
 
billyshelby said:
No, Okur's it. Didn't mean to imply KOC is always beating the bushes for big men with 3 point range. Just that we used that model for 6 years.
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Okur is the only successful one. But the Jazz have been looking for bigs who can open the inside with outside shooting .. a three bomb is a bonus.
> Donyell Marshall
> Pete Chilcutt
> they went after Brad Miller
> who else?
 
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