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Dr. Jones

Dr. Jones

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why does *nearly* everyone insist that our future relies on Sap 'being able to play SF?'

I am open-minded (not on all things, but this, definitely), but GH seems, to me, like a FUTURE stud SF, not SG. Is this whole thing trying to cram a round-peg into a square-hole? Or am I just way off on how I see GH's future in the NBA?
 
PKM said:
why does *nearly* everyone insist that our future relies on Sap 'being able to play SF?'

I am open-minded (not on all things, but this, definitely), but GH seems, to me, like a FUTURE stud SF, not SG. Is this whole thing trying to cram a round-peg into a square-hole? Or am I just way off on how I see GH's future in the NBA?
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I agree with you. I can see it making sense for Sap to play SF is very limited situations but I would rather have him off the bench dominating every other back up PF in the league.

I like the idea of GH playing SG in limited situations as well. I am mostly trying to stay open minded with that in case the Jazz are able to land a stud SF like Miller, Barnes or K-G in the draft. If the Jazz could land one of them then I would like to see GH move more to the SG and possibly Burks to the PG position. I know that there are a lot of hypotheticals in that statement but I like to remain optimistic.
 
I always saw Hayward as a SG/SF like Mike Dunleavy. I see Millsap as a SF/PF and not a fulltime SF. If Millsap comes off the bench, this scenario works, but if he starts at SF we may be approaching round peg in square hole.
 
I think the theory is that it gives him an extra position to play (and can concievebly have any 3 person combo of Sap/Al/Favors/Kanter on the floor, which would also make the team incredibly tall with Hayward at the 2), and that most people (I'm still up in the air) believe Hayward's future as a stud is at the 2 where his height and length can effectively guard other 2s.

Though if Hayward does become a stud at the 3 and Burks becomes one at the 2 then Sap is just another piece of a potential loaded bench, if he will accept that role.
 
Cool (and thanks for the response). I love the idea of using Sap in isolated instances/matchups at the SF spot. I love the idea of the same for GH at the 2. I just don't see either of those positions being their natural spots and sincerely wondering if I'm just missing something about their games.

I suspect it more has to do with JazzFanz not being accustomed to going out and picking up elite talent .. and therefore just cram players into positions that allow us to get the 5 best players on the floor, regardless.

Still open.
 
Milsap's greatest value will be to become the leagues best 6th man, and best PF off the bench. As a starting power forward he rates somewhere between 12-20th in the league... Good enough to start on a non playoff team or first round exit team, but not the PF of a championship contender. But, But, But as a 6th man, he is a beast, and with the new collective bargaining rules we stand the best shot at keeping him. No one will be able to offer him more than the mid-level and his value will always be highest to the Jazz. The sooner the Jazz make the decision in my opinion the better, because the sooner Favors progresses into a stud worthy of playing ahead of Milsap, the sooner Milsap will accept a backup role.

If Favors excels by the end of the year as well as Kanter we could see Jefferson be the one to leave for a coveted final piece.

I see Hayward as our SF of the future, Burks as the SG of the future, and the GSW pick at the PG of the future.
 
blackham9258 said:
Milsap's greatest value will be to become the leagues best 6th man, and best PF off the bench. As a starting power forward he rates somewhere between 12-20th in the league... Good enough to start on a non playoff team or first round exit team, but not the PF of a championship contender. But, But, But as a 6th man, he is a beast, and with the new collective bargaining rules we stand the best shot at keeping him. No one will be able to offer him more than the mid-level and his value will always be highest to the Jazz. The sooner the Jazz make the decision in my opinion the better, because the sooner Favors progresses into a stud worthy of playing ahead of Milsap, the sooner Milsap will accept a backup role.

If Favors excels by the end of the year as well as Kanter we could see Jefferson be the one to leave for a coveted final piece.

I see Hayward as our SF of the future, Burks as the SG of the future, and the GSW pick at the PG of the future.
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Great post. Except I'm not sure the GSW pick will snag a PG of the future.
 
orangello said:
I agree with you. I can see it making sense for Sap to play SF is very limited situations but I would rather have him off the bench dominating every other back up PF in the league.

I like the idea of GH playing SG in limited situations as well. I am mostly trying to stay open minded with that in case the Jazz are able to land a stud SF like Miller, Barnes or K-G in the draft. If the Jazz could land one of them then I would like to see GH move more to the SG and possibly Burks to the PG position. I know that there are a lot of hypotheticals in that statement but I like to remain optimistic.
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I'm still not sure that Barnes would push ahead of Hayward in the rotation at SF. I think if we can get Quincy Miller, it makes sense to put him at SF and bring either Burks or Hayward off the bench. If Burks could play PG, like really play PG, that would be a coup. Meanwhile, Hayward can probably play either wing position, depending on match-ups.
 
I believe that Millsap is already the best PF coming off the bench on the league. The only two people that I can think of that could possibly rival them are Lamar Odom and Taj Gibson. Personally I would take Millsap over both of them. They are both too inconstant for me.

The sooner Millsap realizes that he will help the team more (and put up better numbers) coming off the bench the better the Jazz are as an organization.
 
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