Jazz are shopping Jefferson and Millsap according to ESPN

[LjJazzman]

The only pg i'd want us to give a lot up for is Curry. Lets pray that Gstate is stupid and decides to stick with ellis.

 

[kwb]

Jefferson and Millsap for Arroyo straight up.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Maybe the author misheard the conversation. Perhaps the Jazz are shopping FOR Sap and Al .. Christmas is coming afterall.

 

[Qman]

This is directly from the proposed tentative agreement:

Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA (only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of the player's salary removed from the team's salary for Cap and Tax purposes.

Nowhere does it say that in order to amnesty a player they currently need to be on your team.

I remember reading it on true hoop but it appears to have not been included in the current agreement.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Jefferson should be set to have a great year.

You plagiarized that from some post that's been plagiarized every year since 2006.

 

[Qman]

I remember reading it on true hoop but it appears to have not been included in the current agreement.

Here is Billy Hunter's Summary of the agreement:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...M2JhNy00ZjdlLTgzNGYtZTkyOTFlODI4ZWY0&hl=en_US

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't think it's prudent to sell off players on a shortened season. I'm sure they're feeling around, seeing what kind of value each has to other GMs. I don't think either will be traded during the truncated frenzy before the start of the season. Maybe before the trade deadline, and certainly a good possibility of the off season if the Jazz have a poor season and the young players played decently.

Why draw it out? Right now - and assuming Millsap remains a PF almost exclusively - the Jazz have 5 bigs (and two #3 picks in consecutive years) to split 96 minutes. If they bury or amnesty Memo, that's still only 24 mpg per player.

Something has to happen. Maybe it's Millsap playing 3 full-time. Maybe it's trading Al. Maybe it's both and getting a true C in the process. The Jazz would be foolish to do anything but see what they can get.

And I believe this report. Between now and the 9th, teams are going to be going to get a jump on free agency by making verbal deals so that free agency will be LESS truncated and they can make deals right out of the gate.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think the jazz expected to get something out of an overpaid & undersized pf.

Seriously, what do they expect out of a guy that makes a little more than the MLE? 17 pts, 8 rbs, 2.5 asts, 1.5 stls, 1 bpg, on 53% overall and 40% from 3 and missed all of 6 games? What a bum.

apparently Milsap was content to rush into the locker room and rush off.

Oh no. MiLLsap is out of control.

 

[margodydek]

Why draw it out? Right now - and assuming Millsap remains a PF almost exclusively - the Jazz have 5 bigs (and two #3 picks in consecutive years) to split 96 minutes. If they bury or amnesty Memo, that's still only 24 mpg per player.

Something has to happen. Maybe it's Millsap playing 3 full-time. Maybe it's trading Al. Maybe it's both and getting a true C in the process. The Jazz would be foolish to do anything but see what they can get.

And I believe this report. Between now and the 9th, teams are going to be going to get a jump on free agency by making verbal deals so that free agency will be LESS truncated and they can make deals right out of the gate.

I totally agree with this. If someone's going to get dealed, might as well do it now. I think Millsap is really good, but he's not the future SF or PF for the Jazz. Trading him will be taking a step back to eventually take 2-3 steps forward in the future, as it will give the young guys more time to develop and will also make us slightly worse this season which gives us a much better shot of ensuring at least one lottery pick in the upcoming draft.

Regarding the upcoming draft and the talks of changes to the age limit: my guess is that this will be the last year for one and dones, and then starting in the 2013 draft it will change to 2 yrs in college.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Please stay away from Rondo. We don't need another PG who can't shoot.

****ing THANK YOU. I wouldn't trade Millsap for Rondo straight up. We'll see how good Rondo really is when he's not playing alongside 3 or more HOF-ers. I'm not a Harris believer, but I don't think I'd even trade Harris for him straight up. Rondo's got a punk attitude, pair that with his inability to do anything besides handle the ball, pass, and rebound. All for only $46 million? No thanks.

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

One but not both. Who has more trade value? That's the question. Sap is probably more valuable to us, but I think Jefferson could command more in a trade.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Regarding the upcoming draft and the talks of changes to the age limit: my guess is that this will be the last year for one and dones, and then starting in the 2013 draft it will change to 2 yrs in college.

That would be a bad decision for the league, imo. Beginning it next year would leave a huge hole of a draft with little or no excitement/big names in that year. If the league decided to make it official, immediately, then the 2012 draft would still have names like Barnes, Sullinger, TJones, PJones, Zeller, Marshall, Henson, JLamb, DLamb, etc. etc.

While next years draft would have QMiller, Davis, Drummond, Teague, Kabongo, McAdoo, Hairston, etc. etc.
If they started it NEXT year all of the above would be combined into this year and the 2013 draft would be the weakest, ever.

Maybe the NBA/teams don't care, I don't know ... and, no, this isn't a homer statement.