Rittenhouse

[Deleted member 365]

Just wait until the next election. “I just can’t believe that these people we vilified won’t vote with us! Obviously they’re racist, ignorant, murdering terrorists! If we just call them that more and make them aware of this, they’re guaranteed to vote with us!”

What’s funny is that your side has made no attempt to win over POC. When elections don’t go your way, you discredit the election, try to overturn them, make it harder to vote, and gerrymander the **** out of districts. Why don’t republicans try and win over POC instead of desenfranchise them?

I don’t get your agenda here. You want more vigilantism? You don’t want to do anything to address systemic racism? You want to perpetuate inequalities and injustices?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Hmmm




Hmmm

When the jury does what I want, then the system works and “the media” will start the looting. But when the jury doesn’t do what I want, I accuse them of being intimidated by outside forces aka “the mob” which insists that the system is broken and we must fight fire with fire.

Funny how that works.

It’s disturbing to me that anyone would call Rittenhouse a hero. It’s disturbing not surprising that the right is exploiting this as a touchdown in their weird culture war.

This is ****ing demented:


These are the folks you defend?

 

[fishonjazz]

I’d the riots weren’t happening nobody dies.

If people didn’t chase, attack, somebody holding a gun, nobody dies.

I saw plenty of riots happen where no one died. Even here in Salt Lake City. So far every riot that was attended by rittenhouse holding a gun has resulted in someone dying though.


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[Al-O-Meter]

One of his victims - sorry, rioters - could have also saved hundreds of lives by, say, preventing a chemical spill. Playing what if is fairly pointless

Yes! I cut your quote a bit short, but a huge 'yes' on this. That is why I'm not spouting certainty over some utopian ideal that what would have been achieved "if....'.

Not so coincidentally, it is also why I'm not a socialist. When I see dead bodies that resulted from actions that really happened I don't venture off into imagination to proclaim that utopia would have been achieved through these same actions "if....'. In both cases I think we should stick to reality.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

If that “incident” was 50 miles south the verdict would be different. And that’s pathetic

"if....'

 

[Deleted member 365]

But republicans aren’t actually against protests, riots, or even violence. We saw that all last year as Republicans protested masks, online school, and economic shutdowns. We saw it on Jan 6.

The whole reason why Republicans are making BLM an issue and making Rittenhouse to be Jesus is:

1. They don’t want people to learn about systemic racism. Learning about it makes them feel icky and makes them want to change things. Since 30-40 percent of the population is vulnerable to authoritarian tendencies and the right has clearly embraced authoritarianism, re-establishing a hierarchical society where white Christian males dominate is the preferred social structure.
2. Right wing news outlets want to embrace the hate because it keeps eyeballs onto the teevee. Tucker has said it before, he never wants to be fired again. So like a meth distributer, he’ll do everything possible to maintain his top rated show by delivering purer and harder stuff to his addicts.
3. Republican politicians hope to ride this wave of emotion and culture war to victory in 22.
4. Making Rittenhouse out to be a victim is an attempt to unite the right and engage the base. They’ve tried this with Ashli Babbit and I don’t think it quite worked. We saw last year how Floyd inspired a multi-racial and bipartisan movement. Likewise, we’re seeing the backlash to that in how the right is trying to use Rittenhouse to inspire a homogeneous and partisan backlash.

 

[One Brow]

I don't find your post very valuable.

As if you wouldn't be crowing if you had been right.

 

[One Brow]

Just wait until the next election. “I just can’t believe that these people we vilified won’t vote with us! Obviously they’re racist, ignorant, murdering terrorists! If we just call them that more and make them aware of this, they’re guaranteed to vote with us!”

Unless they vote twice, it doesn't really make a difference.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Um. Again, this is all about making Rittenhouse a brass serpent that Repubs can look to to stay engaged and win the midterms. This isn’t actually about serving justice.

 

[Gameface]

Um. Again, this is all about making Rittenhouse a brass serpent that Repubs can look to to stay engaged and win the midterms. This isn’t actually about serving justice.

It's sad because I really did get the notion that Rittenhouse felt like he wished none of this had ever happened. But the way many of his supporters are portraying the situation it was a heroic feat and good on him for killing a couple scumbags.

I really wish that he could get himself away from many of these people claiming to be his friends because I don't think making him a celebrity for this is going to be good for his mental health.

Hopefully he's able to do exactly what he's said he wants to do, move on, become a nurse, gains some level of anonymity. I hope he has a good life.

 

[Deleted member 365]

It's sad because I really did get the notion that Rittenhouse felt like he wished none of this had ever happened. But the way many of his supporters are portraying the situation it was a heroic feat and good on him for killing a couple scumbags.

I really wish that he could get himself away from many of these people claiming to be his friends because I don't think making him a celebrity for this is going to be good for his mental health.

Hopefully he's able to do exactly what he's said he wants to do, move on, become a nurse, gains some level of anonymity. I hope he has a good life.

You would hope. I know I wished he’d go get help, graduate from high school, and become a successful and good person in society. After all, he still killed two people. I’ve never done that but I’d think if I’d faced all that he’d faced, I’d be looking like Jimmy Stewart in “it’s a wonderful life” to make the most of my new chance at life.

But I’m not seeing any attempt to separate himself from this. In fact, just the opposite. He seems to be embracing this role. He let Tucker do this documentary and on Monday he’s going to be on Tucker’s show. The proud boys are taking advantage of this as well:

Is this really the society we want to live in?

 

[MTS]

The Rittenhouse case is a really good litmus test to see if people follow their political party over logic.

You've got the general consensus amongst each party, and then you've got reality, which is nothing close to either of those things.