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Trade deadline discussion

Ineptimusprime said:
I don’t know what trade is out there that turns this team into a contender. I think we need to swap out 3 rotation pieces to be a contender. Not gonna happen, guys. This core is going to age out and the rebuild will be on.
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2019 moves really put us in a tight corner. Even a Bobby Portis would have made our situation much better
 
idiot said:
Huh, didn't realize this before:

You know who else whiffed on Desmond Bane? Ainge and the Celtics.

I guess they decided that Aaron Nesmith and Payton Pritchard were enough in that draft and traded Bane to Memphis (in a Gobert/Mitchell-like draft-day trade).
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This is something that wasn't really brought up when he officially became GM, he really hasn't had a good draft since 2019. It's not as big a concern for me short term since hopefully they'll be low picks still for a few years, he says hopefully.
 
campaignist said:
This is something that wasn't really brought up when he officially became GM, he really hasn't had a good draft since 2019. It's not as big a concern for me short term since hopefully they'll be low picks still for a few years, he says hopefully.
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Grant Williams is a fine pick... Providing some solid rotation minutes as a 22nd overall in the draft. Payton Pritchard also did pretty well. Way better than guys like Doke or Bradley for sure. He effed their lotto picks but both were 14th overall so it's not like they were DedEx type of mess.
 
Names that come to mind for me (bigger shakeups than a Watanabe type) - Kyle Anderson and Dorian Finney-Smith. Anderson would have to be basically a straight swap for Ingles, maybe minor value going 1 way or the other? Dorian Finney-Smith I think we could take into the Favors TPE and send a protected pick for.

I wouldn't mind something around a Barnes/Grant sort, but I don't really see a deal available that other teams wouldn't beat the offer on.
 
We just have so many limited players that require other players limited in different ways that ****ing with the roster in a substantial way could backfire. We need Royce and Joe. We need everyone honestly. The Jazz needed to make another big move or gain somehow in the last two years and it didn’t happen. We need the continuity and familiarity that exists right now and there’s really not time to **** with it. I just think the Jazz have to play better and get lucky.
 
LoPo said:
Conley is awesome defending from the bench in the playoffs.

It would be a miracle if he's 100% and not hurt or "coming back" from not being 100%.

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I mean Donovan has had injuries in 2 playoffs already. It’s unfortunate but it happens. There is no guarantee he will be hurt. This far the team has kept his minute load down. Lots of guys get hurt before and during the playoffs… moving Mike for another player does not guarantee health. PG, Kawhi, AD, Steph, CP3… have all had issues at points in their careers. When Mike has been healthy in the playoffs he’s been good. No reason to believe he won’t be healthy.
 
campaignist said:
This is something that wasn't really brought up when he officially became GM, he really hasn't had a good draft since 2019. It's not as big a concern for me short term since hopefully they'll be low picks still for a few years, he says hopefully.
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I brought it up… he’s not been great. I think at least he misses on the right types of players so it’s less perplexing than our misses at least.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
You got serious brain rot if you think trading Conley is a good idea.

The Jazz dont need a huge move. A huge move has more chance at backfiring than it does succeeding.

Just grab Yuta Watanabe and win.
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Any change will also have a learning curve too… I mean if it’s a 7th or 8th man not a big deal… if it’s your second creator that changes **** substantially.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
I don’t know what trade is out there that turns this team into a contender. I think we need to swap out 3 rotation pieces to be a contender. Not gonna happen, guys. This core is going to age out and the rebuild will be on.
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Trade Joe Ingles, Jared Butler, a future FRP and a 2RP for Christian Wood or Josh Hart. Be able to put a lineup on the floor without Conley for extended minutes if he's too small to have a defensive impact.

Conley/Mitchell/Bojan/Wood/Gobert, with Clarkson/Royce/Whiteside off the bench, is a contender.

Conley/Mitchell/Hart/Bojan/Gobert, with Clarkson/Royce/Whiteside off the bench, is a contender.

The Jazz's problem is that when they face a team with four 6'8" thoroughbred athletes who switch and trap on defense, their system players like Joe Ingles get exposed on both sides of the ball. I'm assuming this is why the Jazz's front office reportedly lined up a trade for Ingles during the off season.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
Any change will also have a learning curve too… I mean if it’s a 7th or 8th man not a big deal… if it’s your second creator that changes **** substantially.
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I'm going to try not to read too much into last night's game for Joe Ingles. If anyone is going to be affected by a B2B on NYE/NYD, which is also the 3rd game in 4 nights, compounded by the fact that Mitchell and Conley each sat out one of those games, it's Joe Ingles. However, he was on the bubble before he was rendered useless last night.
 
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