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Again unlikely and I am not saying it is a common thing I refuse to assign someone no chance. they made it and you never know. There is always a cinderalla story waiting to happen

I'm saying it would be more beneficial to the Jazz's future if we had a lottery pick instead of making the playoffs for an EXTREMELY likely first round exit.
 
I'm saying it would be more beneficial to the Jazz's future if we had a lottery pick instead of making the playoffs for an EXTREMELY likely first round exit.

Now that is a whole different arguement. I am simply refusing to assign a team that got to any particular level/round no chance to get to the next lever/round. There is the chance of a major injury to the higher ranking/superior team, a "Steve Nash" scenario where several players get suspended for a few games of the series as we saw with S.A. and Phoenix. Always a chance no matter how small. It can happen.

As for what I would like to see for the Jazz. Well I do not want them to tank but I want the newer guys to have large amounts of minutes to see what we have. Are the big positions really fixed? Do we really have two good wing players to build off of? Only way to find out is to let them play and see what we have.
 
The Rockets will be better than you've got.

Lowry, Dragic, Flynn
Martin, Courtney Lee
Marcus Morris, Budinger, T.Will
Scola, Patterson, Jordan Hill
Montiejunas

They're also in a position to make a trade.
 
Yes, very sad indeed if you're a Portland fan. I have to say Portland was becoming my 2nd favorite team several years back. I admired the way they had gotten past the JailBlazer stage and were rebuilding the team. Of course, then Paul Allen and "the other Larry Miller" started to show their true colors. First came the ugly letter to NBA teams threatening action if any team signed Darius Miles. Then, of course, the toxic offer to Paul Millsap and the outrageous amount offered to Matthews. And the reprehensible treatment of Kevin Pritchard by Paul Allen. I thought for sure Portland was going to be a contender within a few years of drafting Oden. Now, I'm almost happy with every setback that happens to that organization; Allen deserves everything bad that comes his way.

I know I'm a homer in saying this, but I think Utah and OKC have the brightest futures of any teams in the West. Of course, we know the Lakers will make some significant moves. They'll probably cut enough salary to eventually sign Paul AND Howard as FA's.
 
Yes, very sad indeed if you're a Portland fan. I have to say Portland was becoming my 2nd favorite team several years back. I admired the way they had gotten past the JailBlazer stage and were rebuilding the team. Of course, then Paul Allen and "the other Larry Miller" started to show their true colors. First came the ugly letter to NBA teams threatening action if any team signed Darius Miles. Then, of course, the toxic offer to Paul Millsap and the outrageous amount offered to Matthews. And the reprehensible treatment of Kevin Pritchard by Paul Allen. I thought for sure Portland was going to be a contender within a few years of drafting Oden. Now, I'm almost happy with every setback that happens to that organization; Allen deserves everything bad that comes his way.

I know I'm a homer in saying this, but I think Utah and OKC have the brightest futures of any teams in the West. Of course, we know the Lakers will make some significant moves. They'll probably cut enough salary to eventually sign Paul AND Howard as FA's.

I'd put the Clippers in there as well. Griffin+Gordon+Minnesota pick? Very bright future.
 
I'd put the Clippers in there as well. Griffin+Gordon+Minnesota pick? Very bright future.
But it's Donald Sterling. He always screws things up. They'll give up the farm for Paul, because Stern says that is what they need to do. But CP3 has only promised not to opt out. In two years, he'll just walk over to the other lockerroom and put on his Laker jersey. Then, Griffin will be traded on the cheap and the rebuilding will start anew.
 
Now that is a whole different arguement. I am simply refusing to assign a team that got to any particular level/round no chance to get to the next lever/round. There is the chance of a major injury to the higher ranking/superior team, a "Steve Nash" scenario where several players get suspended for a few games of the series as we saw with S.A. and Phoenix. Always a chance no matter how small. It can happen.

As for what I would like to see for the Jazz. Well I do not want them to tank but I want the newer guys to have large amounts of minutes to see what we have. Are the big positions really fixed? Do we really have two good wing players to build off of? Only way to find out is to let them play and see what we have.

How much better is Jefferson than Favors? How much better is Millsap than Kanter?

(Yes I phrased it this way to prove a point)

If they are so much better then there would not be an argument, but I honestly believe that it is closer than others want to believe.

Hayward> Miles?
Burks= Bell?
 
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The Rockets will be better than you've got.

Lowry, Dragic, Flynn
Martin, Courtney Lee
Marcus Morris, Budinger, T.Will
Scola, Patterson, Jordan Hill
Montiejunas

They're also in a position to make a trade.

The Rockets have some talent but who does the dirty work on this team? Who defends the paint? Who takes the other teams top perimeter scorer?

They have two minus defenders in Martin and Scola who are their best offensive options. If Morris is going to play SF, then I expect he will get burned too. Terrence Williams had several opportunities to succeed in NJ but never did it. I don't expect him to start now. IMO Lowry is their only player who is effect on both sides of the court. And that isn't a winning combo.

Also they are collecting PF's even faster than the Jazz. Scola and Patterson need to play the 4. Hill and Montiejunas can play the 5 a little but their best position is 4. Morris will be able to play 3 on offense but defensively he needs to be a 4. I think they will miss Chuck Hayes's defense, rebounding and general toughness.

Trust me, I am in Houston and I hear all about the Rockets.

I expect that Lowry, Martin, Budinger, Scola and Hill will start at the beginning of they year. But as they are currently constituted they will be a lottery team.
 
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