2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, I think it will. Obviously it wouldnt be a positive thing long-term, but in the short-term it will help them revert back to their play-style strengths and will probably get Tobias back to being more involved.

Yeah I mean Tobias has a long history of totally stepping up when they need him to.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah I mean Tobias has a long history of totally stepping up when they need him to.

It's November....

And he's played extremely well so far

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's November....

And he's played extremely well so far

Sure... Basically if Embiid doesn't start playing like mvp Embiid they will be under .500 while Harden is out. If he steps up and is healthy the whole time then they can go 10-5 or something like that. If they get slow injured Embiid then they in much bigger trouble.

Then when Harden comes back there will be an adjustment period again and he will need some time to shake some rust.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sure... Basically if Embiid doesn't start playing like mvp Embiid they will be under .500 while Harden is out. If he steps up and is healthy the whole time then they can go 10-5 or something like that. If they get slow injured Embiid then they in much bigger trouble.

Then when Harden comes back there will be an adjustment period again and he will need some time to shake some rust.

OK, What do you think their record will be over the next month? (which seems to be 15 games if it's a straight month).

They were 2-4 w/ their fully healthy roster, so .33 win percentage.

That would be 5-10 over the next month. They will outperform 5-10 with Harden being out.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The biggest winners of this draft will be among the teams picking outside of the Top 2. Their GM's can choose players they actually want and need. Their hand isn't forced by ridiculous hype and they're not signing their own professional death sentence if they don't pick the latest golden boy of NBA social media.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The biggest winners of this draft will be among the teams picking outside of the Top 2. Their GM's can choose players they actually want and need. Their hand isn't forced by ridiculous hype and they're not signing their own professional death sentence if they don't pick the latest golden boy of NBA social media.

Those GM's can always trade out if they truly believe that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

OK, What do you think their record will be over the next month? (which seems to be 15 games if it's a straight month).

They were 2-4 w/ their fully healthy roster, so .33 win percentage.

That would be 5-10 over the next month. They will outperform 5-10 with Harden being out.

Wow.... well with Embiid out they are 2-1 so I guess they just hold him out and go 10-5.

They should outperform 5-10. Looking at the schedule I'd guess they go 6-9 or 7-8... If Embiid is playing well they do better than that. With a healthy Embiid and Harden I'd say 10-5 is around where I'd expect them to play.

If you are going to say "it might be good for them" if Harden is out then they better do .500 or better over that period. I'd set the over/under at 7.5 wins over the 15 games and would take the under.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wow.... well with Embiid out they are 2-1 so I guess they just hold him out and go 10-5.

They should outperform 5-10. Looking at the schedule I'd guess they go 6-9 or 7-8... If Embiid is playing well they do better than that. With a healthy Embiid and Harden I'd say 10-5 is around where I'd expect them to play.

If you are going to say "it might be good for them" if Harden is out then they better do .500 or better over that period. I'd set the over/under at 7.5 wins over the 15 games and would take the under.

And they should have outperformed what they did when Harden/Embiid were both healthy, but they didnt. They clearly had issues. Of course we would expect that to get cleaned up at some point and for the level of basketball to rise at some point. All I'm saying is that with Harden being out that point will come sooner. It will be easier for them to figure out and get back on the same page. There will be more urgency with Harden out.

10-5 is on pace for a 54 win season, which would be a top 5 team in the NBA. That's what everyone thought the Sixers were coming into the season, so I agree with you that's what Harden/Embiid (with everyone else healthy as well) should be doing, but they werent. Looking at their upcoming month, I would say they would be like 7-8 w/ a fully healthy team. I think they will go 9-6.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And they should have outperformed what they did when Harden/Embiid were both healthy, but they didnt. They clearly had issues. Of course we would expect that to get cleaned up at some point and for the level of basketball to rise at some point. All I'm saying is that with Harden being out that point will come sooner. It will be easier for them to figure out and get back on the same page. There will be more urgency with Harden out.

10-5 is on pace for a 54 win season, which would be a top 5 team in the NBA. That's what everyone thought the Sixers were coming into the season, so I agree with you that's what Harden/Embiid (with everyone else healthy as well) should be doing, but they werent. Looking at their upcoming month, I would say they would be like 7-8 w/ a fully healthy team. I think they will go 9-6.

Yeah I fully agree… not playing together will totally help them mesh together and get on the same page… it will be seamless when Harden returns. Lol

I’m comfortable saying they will be worse than 9-6. If Embiid misses a few games it could get real ugly though. Harden not playing giving them a two game bump up is pretty wild… if that is really the case they should move him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah I fully agree… not playing together will totally help them mesh together and get on the same page… it will be seamless when Harden returns. Lol

I’m comfortable saying they will be worse than 9-6. If Embiid misses a few games it could get real ugly though. Harden not playing giving them a two game bump up is pretty wild… if that is really the case they should move him.

There are plenty of examples of the scenarios I'm talking about having a positive effect on the team and does not require them to trade Harden. You are welcome to your opinion, but to act like I have some outrageous opinion on this is disingenuous.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There are plenty of examples of the scenarios I'm talking about having a positive effect on the team and does not require them to trade Harden. You are welcome to your opinion, but to act like I have some outrageous opinion on this is disingenuous.

I would love some of these examples/scenarios where a star player got hurt and it helped two stars mesh together. In these scenarios it is likely that whatever positive change happened from a player being out resulted in some permanent roster move or adjustment to the rotation.

It isn't outrageous... but it is likely to be loud wrong to hear "star player X is out for 15 games... which is actually good for his team". Loud wrong is fairly on brand for you lately so carry on.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would love some of these examples/scenarios where a star player got hurt and it helped two stars mesh together. In these scenarios it is likely that whatever positive change happened from a player being out resulted in some permanent roster move or adjustment to the rotation.

It isn't outrageous... but it is likely to be loud wrong to hear "star player X is out for 15 games... which is actually good for his team". Loud wrong is fairly on brand for you lately so carry on.

Are you becoming one of these people who overreacts to small sample size just to say Cy is wrong?

That's cute.