Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That is baked into the premium you pay in the trade and that is kinda my issue... he has had the health issues... and on a team desperate for half court offense he has not taken that step. I haven't watched them much so maybe its on Pascal/FVV/Barnes.

I also think the price would be Beasley, Ochai and two unprotected picks... so he kinda has to take that step based on the price. If he goes to a team that starts to really worry about their ability to keep him I'd trade for him next deadline... but obviously that may not happen.

I just think with Toronto you have a lot of similiarishly sized/skilled players who all take a lot of shots and kind of play in similiar spots on the court. OG is 4th on the team in shots, and that's right in front of Scottie Barnes (who prior to this year had just insane hype about him being HIM). IDK, they are just a very strange team to me and I can see why OG has stalled out because I think it's a team of players who are all trying to be the guy who takes that next step.

In Utah he would be the clear #3 behind JC/Lauri. He'd have an opportunity to surpass JC the following year. Feel like he could get a lot of opportunity here and his game fits.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, I think a core of JC/OG/Lauri/WK would be pretty formidable. Then you can use your two picks (this is assuming it takes the Brooklyn pick) to fill in the roster with high end talent. You also still have plenty of ammo to trade for a star should they become available.

THat' front court trio wingspan would be 6'11, 7'2, 7'4

 

[Elizah Huge]

Bobby Marks just posted a trade deadline watch for every EC team. He posted one trade each team should do. Two involved the Jazz:

Brooklyn trades Day’Ron Sharpe, Kessler Edwards and Philadelphia’s 2027 top-8 protected 1st for Jarred Vanderbilt.

Miami trades Dewayne Dedmon and their 2023 top-14 protected 1st for Jarred Vanderbilt.

He just did the WC side of this. Four involved the Jazz:

Memphis trades Danny Green, Xavier Tillman Sr and a 2024 top-14 protected 1st for Malik Beasley.

New Orleans trades Garrett Temple, Jaxson Hayes and a 2024 top-10 protected 1st for Jordan Clarkson.

Dallas trades Tim Hardaway Jr and a 2027 top-7 protected 1st for Jordan Clarkson and Rudy Gay.

Memphis trades Danny Green, Kennedy Chandler and a 2024 top-10 protected 1st for Malik Beasley.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I wouldnt say OG is ideal though. Ideally I'd want someone with a bit more playmaking ability (like a Khris Middleton type), but OG is a great option with his combination of defensive and scoring ability.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He just did the WC side of this. Four involved the Jazz:

Memphis trades Danny Green, Xavier Tillman Sr and a 2024 top-14 protected 1st for Malik Beasley.

New Orleans trades Garrett Temple, Jaxson Hayes and a 2024 top-10 protected 1st for Jordan Clarkson.

Dallas trades Tim Hardaway Jr and a 2027 top-7 protected 1st for Jordan Clarkson and Rudy Gay.

Memphis trades Danny Green, Kennedy Chandler and a 2024 top-10 protected 1st for Malik Beasley.

Just speaking to the Memphis trade, I'd gladly take Chandler over Tilman if it meant dropping 4 protection spots.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He just did the WC side of this. Four involved the Jazz:

Memphis trades Danny Green, Xavier Tillman Sr and a 2024 top-14 protected 1st for Malik Beasley.

New Orleans trades Garrett Temple, Jaxson Hayes and a 2024 top-10 protected 1st for Jordan Clarkson.

Dallas trades Tim Hardaway Jr and a 2027 top-7 protected 1st for Jordan Clarkson and Rudy Gay.

Memphis trades Danny Green, Kennedy Chandler and a 2024 top-10 protected 1st for Malik Beasley.

Yes to the Memphis deals... no to the others.

JC is worth at least a basically unprotected pick and expiring salary. Even then I'm likely a no... to take back bad salary on top of it is stupid.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes to the Memphis deals... no to the others.

JC is worth at least a basically unprotected pick and expiring salary. Even then I'm likely a no... to take back bad salary on top of it is stupid.

I also hate the idea of trading for 2027 stuff. I want some immediate gratification, or at least in 2024.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

Is it the same guy who conveniently goes missing or "didn’t watch" the games where Sexton/Kessler play great?

Is this the guy?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I just think with Toronto you have a lot of similiarishly sized/skilled players who all take a lot of shots and kind of play in similiar spots on the court. OG is 4th on the team in shots, and that's right in front of Scottie Barnes (who prior to this year had just insane hype about him being HIM). IDK, they are just a very strange team to me and I can see why OG has stalled out because I think it's a team of players who are all trying to be the guy who takes that next step.

In Utah he would be the clear #3 behind JC/Lauri. He'd have an opportunity to surpass JC the following year. Feel like he could get a lot of opportunity here and his game fits.

I just don't see how he ramps up the offensive volume... some midpost stuff maybe but how efficient is that when you figure we have the number 4 offense. The defense is obviously great and would help a lot. I just think the jump is priced in to the purchase and it is not certain by any means.

If the two options we have are Beasley 2 unprotected picks for OG or Beasley Vando for Collins and a pick from Atlanta... I'm taking option #2 without thinking twice really.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I also hate the idea of trading for 2027 stuff. I want some immediate gratification, or at least in 2024.

I'm okay with it, but when you already have 6 picks in 27 and 29 I would prefer something in 24... we also have no picks next year so would be nice.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just don't see how he ramps up the offensive volume... some midpost stuff maybe but how efficient is that when you figure we have the number 4 offense. The defense is obviously great and would help a lot. I just think the jump is priced in to the purchase and it is not certain by any means.

If the two options we have are Beasley 2 unprotected picks for OG or Beasley Vando for Collins and a pick from Atlanta... I'm taking option #2 without thinking twice really.

I thought it was Beasley/Sexton/pick? Or was it Ochai/Sexton/1st? I cant remember lmao.

EIther way, I think we put out a starting 5 of Mike/OG/JC/WK/Lauri we can be a 2nd round playoff team right away.

 

[Elizah Huge]

OG is potentially a 1.5 year rental though. That’s the biggest issue to me.