2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[fishonjazz]

I love Cason and think he will be good. That said... if Ausar (I actually think he's the guy that falls), Hendricks, or Walker fall... draft teh effs out of them then hopefully Bufkin is available at 16 or we can move up to grab Black or Bufkin.

Ya I really like wallace but I would definitely rather draft hendricks over him and would also have to take walker and ausar over him (though I wouldn't feel great about either guy)

 

[fishonjazz]

I like George too. Just feel like there are better options at 9 and he might not be there at 16.

this. I also like george but it just seems like he wont be the dude we pick.

 

[fishonjazz]

View: https://youtu.be/zZu5WCv6z3s
Josh Lloyd has Anthony Black falling to 13 on his latest mock.
He has the jazz drafting
#9 Cason Wallace
#16 Bilal Coulibaly
#28 Tristan Vukcevic

On Cason vs Black. "Defense is on par, shooting upside is higher"

I would be ok with that draft for the jazz.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Personally I think drafting Hendricks over any of the guard prospects (Black, Wallace, JHS, Bufkin) would be a poor choice. If the Jazz did it though I would be pretty confident they see upside in Hendricks I don't.

I just hate the idea of a safe pick at 9. Hendricks NBA role just seems so rigid to me. I want someone who can really change the dynamic of the team that a potential lead guard would bring and I like all 4 of the options we could have at that position.

Maybe they go that route though and just take whoever is left of the four guards at 16, but if that's the route I'd rather take a higher upside and better fit with Bilal at 9.

 

[sip]

For a guy with shooting struggles, Cason sure has a good looking stroke and a very quick release.

Cason doesn't have shooting struggles. That is one of his strengths.

 

[fishonjazz]

Personally I think drafting Hendricks over any of the guard prospects (Black, Wallace, JHS, Bufkin) would be a poor choice. If the Jazz did it though I would be pretty confident they see upside in Hendricks I don't.

I just hate the idea of a safe pick at 9. Hendricks NBA role just seems so rigid to me. I want someone who can really change the dynamic of the team that a potential lead guard would bring and I like all 4 of the options we could have at that position.

Maybe they go that route though and just take whoever is left of the four guards at 16, but if that's the route I'd rather take a higher upside and better fit with Bilal at 9.

I think part of the issue with prioritizing a lead guard is that we used like a million lead guards last season (conley, naw, dunn, sexton, tht, and I feel like im forgetting someone) and all did well and we still have a bunch of them on the roster currently (tht, dunn, sexton) so we dont really need one. We didn't seem all that deep to me at the 3, 4, and 5 spot though. Hendricks could help there. Seems like last year we could plug just about anyone into the point guard position and they looked good. Maybe that is due to Hardy or something but Im just not concerned about point guard for the jazz.

 

[fishonjazz]

Cason doesn't have shooting struggles. That is one of his strengths.

For a guy whose strength is shooting his shooting struggles sure had lots of discussion. Everything I have read about in this thread is that he is a superb defender but his shooting is questionable.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think part of the issue with prioritizing a lead guard is that we used like a million lead guards last season (conley, naw, dunn, sexton, tht, and I feel like im forgetting someone) and all did well and we still have a bunch of them on the roster currently (tht, dunn, sexton) so we dont really need one. We didn't seem all that deep to me at the 3, 4, and 5 spot though. Hendricks could help there. Seems like last year we could plug just about anyone into the point guard position and they looked good. Maybe that is due to Hardy or something but Im just not concerned about point guard for the jazz.

Our lead guard play was pretty mediocre.

I love THT, but he is too risky to bank on. Same with Dunn. Sexton is a 6th man. The Jazz clearly need a higher upside guy in the mix who is more of a natural lead guard. The boost we got from a Conley despite him being over the hill should tell you how much we need someone who can develop into that and that player is currently not on the roster

 

[fishonjazz]

Our lead guard play was pretty mediocre.

I love THT, but he is too risky to bank on. Same with Dunn. Sexton is a 6th man. The Jazz clearly need a higher upside guy in the mix who is more of a natural lead guard. The boost we got from a Conley despite him being over the hill should tell you how much we need someone who can develop into that and that player is currently not on the roster

I know you hate sexton but he played great as our starting point guard. So did Dunn. Im just not worried about the position. Hardy seems to be able to take just about anyone and make them look good. I mean no one thought anything of THT, Dunn, or NAW yet with Hardy at the helm they all looked like actual rotation players in the nba. And as you said yourself, conley was over the hill and had the jazz with the best record in the league through 13 games. Im just not worried about that particular position. Agree to disagree.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I love the idea that if a player is already good at important thing they have low upside… it’s some genius level big brain thinking and it’s been proved to be stupid so frequently. Believe it or not guys can expand their games if they do a few things really well.

 

[fishonjazz]

Dunn per 36 number for the jazz:
8 assists, 18.4 points, 6 rebounds, with shooting percentages of 54% from the field and 47% from three. Pretty awesome.

Sexton: 21.5 points per 36 on shooting percentages of 51% from the field and 39% from 3 (82% from the line). only 4.3 assists though.

I think those dudes are good enough to run the jazz for a while. Can always get a lead guard with one of our million other future draft picks or in a trade or with our cap space. there are lots of dudes who fit the physical profile of a point guard to pick from. Even in this draft it seems like there is a whole ton of good point guards that will be available at all of the jazz pick positions. Not a ton of good bigs/wings will be available though. I think there is a reason for that.

Fwiw THT: 6.7 assists, 5.8 rebounds, 19.1 points per 36 on 42% from the field and 29% from 3.

Conley with the jazz: 9 assists, 3.0 rebounds, and 13 points per game per 36 on 41% from the field and 36% from 3. Honestly im surprised that his numbers dont look all that good. in fact Dunn looks the best imo, followed by sexton and then THT and conley are close with the edge to conley due to assists (if tht was more efficient then I would put conley dead last.)

Conley with the least amount of scoring, least amount of rebounds, most assists, and 2nd worst efficiency (no one can beat THT in being inefficient). Surprising stuff.

Not gonna do NAW numbers cause he barely played but it seems like he played pretty well for the most part when given a chance.

Hard to factor in defense but I feel like Dunn and THT were known as really good defenders and Sexton busts his but at all times at least. Conley is kind of known as a poor defender from what I can remember (mostly due to his lack of size)

 

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