Following potential 2012 draftees

[utahjazz107]

Word. Gilchrist reminds me of Ronnie Brewer during his college years. Brewer was actually a way better ballhandler/passer though. He will most likely be better than Brewer because his shot isn't as bad, but I still think he will need the right offensive system/PG to succeed at a high level.

I think I even posted an old draft description of Brewer's that read identical to the current ones on MKG.

Brewer is currently leading in the NBA in 3PT% lol.

 

[spycam1]

While I agree that the Jazz need more shooting for the future, I'm sick of this line of thinking that just because someone can't shoot that means they'll never amount to anything more than Brewer has...

Career 3PT%

Michael Jordan (32%)
Grant Hill (31%)
Dwyane Wade (29%)
Scottie Pippen (32%)
Lebron James (33%)

What made them great? Competitive FIRE; the desire to be better than everyone else and the work ethic to actually accomplish that; freakish athleticism; the desire to make everyone around them better; being multidimensional players. I see all of the above in Kidd-Gilchrist. No, I don't necessarily think he'll be in the same category as the players listed above, but I think all those traits will at least make an All-Star. All-Star caliber player seems more likely to me than Brewer-ish.

 

[Favors Flave]

I still think that Damian Lillard would be a nice 2nd round pick for us.

If he didn't play for Weber he would be a 1st rounder no doubt. I really hope we get him in the 2nd

 

[Favors Flave]

Tony Wroten and the Huskies play the Utes tomorrow at noon, just heads up

 

[Dr. Jones]

While I agree that the Jazz need more shooting for the future, I'm sick of this line of thinking that just because someone can't shoot that means they'll never amount to anything more than Brewer has...

Career 3PT%

Michael Jordan (32%)
Grant Hill (31%)
Dwyane Wade (29%)
Scottie Pippen (32%)
Lebron James (33%)

What made them great? Competitive FIRE; the desire to be better than everyone else and the work ethic to actually accomplish that; freakish athleticism; the desire to make everyone around them better; being multidimensional players. I see all of the above in Kidd-Gilchrist. No, I don't necessarily think he'll be in the same category as the players listed above, but I think all those traits will at least make an All-Star. All-Star caliber player seems more likely to me than Brewer-ish.

Holy **** great post!!!

 

[Dr. Jones]

If he didn't play for Weber he would be a 1st rounder no doubt. I really hope we get him in the 2nd

Haha, awesome, Weber is a joke .. that's not funny.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Tony Wroten and the Huskies play the Utes tomorrow at noon, just heads up

Well there's some competition.

 

[Hantlers]

One huge issue in projecting Gilchrist as a prospect on the Jazz is his shooting. The Jazz already have way too many 4s for him to play there and have too much of a need at 3 anyway. Of the 4 untouchables right now, only Hayward looks like he could be a legit floor-spreader with Kanter probably having a better shot than Burks but needing way more time and opportunities if that is to ever come to fruition.

If you imagine a future lineup of Harris at 30+, Hayward or Burks, Gilchrist, Favors, and Kanter in a serious game, prepare for a brick-fest as the D will just zone and/or collapse and the Jazz won't be able to do anything about it in the half-court. The Jazz have three pressing needs:

1) a pure PG that can shoot.
2) a real SF that can shoot.
3) shooting anywhere they can find it.

I have no faith that Gilchrist with that awful hitch in his shot and pedestrian (that's being kind) results in the NCAA will be able to suddenly become Reggie Miller.

However if Kanter becomes Rasheed Wallace (offensively, without the crazy) and Burks becomes Kevin Martin, then this is much less of an issue. I'm not terribly confident either of those things - let alone both - happen.

These are all very good points.

 

[Hantlers]

Well there's some competition.

The Utes are terrible. My school beat them and we suck.

 

[Dr. Jones]

These are all very good points.

Now do the same for Miller, Barnes, and any other top prospect. This draft reeks of #2's. (get it?)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

While I agree that the Jazz need more shooting for the future, I'm sick of this line of thinking that just because someone can't shoot that means they'll never amount to anything more than Brewer has...

Career 3PT%

Michael Jordan (32%)
Grant Hill (31%)
Dwyane Wade (29%)
Scottie Pippen (32%)
Lebron James (33%)

What made them great? Competitive FIRE; the desire to be better than everyone else and the work ethic to actually accomplish that; freakish athleticism; the desire to make everyone around them better; being multidimensional players. I see all of the above in Kidd-Gilchrist. No, I don't necessarily think he'll be in the same category as the players listed above, but I think all those traits will at least make an All-Star. All-Star caliber player seems more likely to me than Brewer-ish.

More like supreme athletic ability and skills.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

While I agree that the Jazz need more shooting for the future, I'm sick of this line of thinking that just because someone can't shoot that means they'll never amount to anything more than Brewer has...

Career 3PT%

Michael Jordan (32%)
Grant Hill (31%)
Dwyane Wade (29%)
Scottie Pippen (32%)
Lebron James (33%)

What made them great? Competitive FIRE; the desire to be better than everyone else and the work ethic to actually accomplish that; freakish athleticism; the desire to make everyone around them better; being multidimensional players. I see all of the above in Kidd-Gilchrist. No, I don't necessarily think he'll be in the same category as the players listed above, but I think all those traits will at least make an All-Star. All-Star caliber player seems more likely to me than Brewer-ish.

Okay, but these are some of the greatest athletes in the league, ever. They had quickness, handles, explosiveness, strength, etc. They make up for their lack of stroke.