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stitches said:
Do you think this is his real shooting ability or do you think those 2 games might just be too small of a sample?

Also... what's your take on his game as a whole, small sample shooting splits aside? How's his defense? How does his athleticism and length project to the league? etc...
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I saw stats from the french league that also showed a poor shooter. I think this is his real shooting ability currently.
 
stitches said:
. I feel like in SL specifically, the eye test is probably more reliable predictor of talent.
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You mention the eye test. I saw eliza talking about watching him in person and Bilal being almost invisible. Like if you didn't know he was a top 10 pick you would think he was a scrub. No box score involved. No highlights. Just an eye test of watching him play a game of basketball with mostly non nba players.
 
fishonjazz said:
You mention the eye test. I saw eliza talking about watching him in person and Bilal being almost invisible. Like if you didn't know he was a top 10 pick you would think he was a scrub. No box score involved. No highlights. Just an eye test of watching him play a game of basketball with mostly non nba players.
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Elizah is also the person who threw a literal temper tantrum when he was told that Bilal would be a top 10 pick and Utah would take him if he fell to 9. (which has since been proven in interviews by Ryan Smith)

He actively lets bias get in the way of how he scouts players. If you watched these Bilal games and have come away unimpressed you're delusional.
 
fishonjazz said:
You mention the eye test. I saw eliza talking about watching him in person and Bilal being almost invisible. Like if you didn't know he was a top 10 pick you would think he was a scrub. No box score involved. No highlights. Just an eye test of watching him play a game of basketball with mostly non nba players.
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Along with HH who was also there with me and said the same exact thing. HH is a really smart guy and I don’t think he’d be disingenuous about a guy he didn’t have a strong opinion on one way or the other before the draft.
 
I also don’t really care about what guys do when we don’t draft them. I watched Black up close as well and one thing that concerned me a little was his turnovers. It seemed like he was getting stripped a little too easy on drives.
 
fishonjazz said:
I saw stats from the french league that also showed a poor shooter. I think this is his real shooting ability currently.
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10% from 3 is not his real shooting ability. He shot 34% from 3 last year in France on 119 attempts. He shot 21% the previous year on 86 attempts. That's super small samples. His FT% was 71% on 170 attempts.... IMO it points to... not a great shooter... but it also suggests that there might be room for improvement and real reachable potential of at least an average shooter. His shot is not the picture of beauty or anything but I also don't see anything particularly wrong with it mechanically. If I had to bet... I wouldn't bet he goes on to be average shooter, but it's possible. IMO the most likely scenario is he ends up being around 30-33% 3p shooter in the NBA.
 
fishonjazz said:
Just a pot calling a kettle black. Classic Cy
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Where? Please show me where I do that for draft prospects?

You arent ever involved in draft talks bud, dont come in here and speak on **** you dont know about.

I was down on George (had him #23) and since said I'm wrong. I'm completely capable of saying I'm wrong about a draft prospect and dont really care about doing so.
 
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