Somewhere Harpring is Sad

[northeast]

I didn't watch Harping when he was a rookie, but his stats that year were fine, nothing remarkable. 6 blocks, 45 assists for the entire year. meh. wouldn't trade any of our youngins for a 20 year old Harp, JMO.

 

[northeast]

the teams a reputation for being dirty kept 2 of the greatest players of all time at a disadvantage in the playoffs for their entire careers, hence the all time steals and assist leader , and 2nd leading all time scorer managed to play their entire careers without ONE SINGLE title.

The league is less friendly to dirty play than it used to be. the Jazz will NEVER HAVE A CHANCE of going far in the playoffs if they play like Harping wants them to play, and have the reputation Harpring wants them to have. There are no Bad Boy Pistons in the league now.

 

[footawn]

I'm curious what made you want to arbitrarily compare 4 of our new guys to Harpring, when they are nothing like him. Is it because he's a commentator and therefore fresh on your mind?

Actually, don't bother. I'm asleep on this already.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I don't know what is so difficult about this.
You guys keep wanting to talk about what Harpring did in his best year, and act like he did that every year in his career.
Are you seriously suggesting that Harping could rebound and defend the paint as rookie as well as Favors or Kanter, or pass and handle the ball as well as a rookie as Burks and Hayward?

What are you 10yrs. old. Harp doesn't have the height, and didnt play the same position as Favors and Kanter. As far as Burks and Hayward go, they have a completely different style of play, as apposed to Harpring's style, which was as a banging punishing sf who did a lot of posting up and moving without the ball on the perimeter hitting the curl Jumper. Harpring in his prime was a very good player.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Burks Hayward Kanter and Favors, all show more skills now than Harpring did in his prime. I expect any one of them to have a better career. Of course, one or two might disappoint, but barring injury, as a group they will be better players than Harping. I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, it is possible that some of those players might not be as good in their worst year as Harping was in his best year. Is that your point?

They all may end up with better careers but to say they all show "more skills" than him is ludicrous. Harp was a very, very good player in his prime and plenty skilled. Moreso than any of the four young guys you mentioned at least.

 

[northeast]

Playing hard is one thing, fouling on purpose is a lazy way to make up for bad defense. Trying to hurt people when you foul them, when you already have a reputation for that, is just a way to be sure that your team will ALWAYS get the short end of the stick from the refs in any future playoffs.

 

[Ellipse]

What is the point of knocking Harpring? The guy was a damn good player for the Jazz. He was always willing to sacrifice his body by diving to the floor or flying into the seats for loose balls. The only problem the Jazz had with him is that his last contract was one year too long, but I looked at it as Larry Miller's way of rewarding a loyal, scrappy player who gave his all for the good of the team.

That said, I wish he could just shut the hell up for a few minutes each broadcast. Silence is underrated.

 

[SojoDave]

I think you went berserk when Harp said that Jazz should foul more. I think he was saying is that the Jazz should play tough inside, not give up easy layups, and send message fouls if necessary. Harpring was a stud player and had a great career. I think you need to chill out on what broadcasters are saying.

 

[northeast]

They all may end up with better careers but to say they all show "more skills" than him is ludicrous. Harp was a very, very good player in his prime and plenty skilled. Moreso than any of the four young guys you mentioned at least.

Wes, that is because you think being nasty is a skill. I already clarified that, not surprised you don't understand.
Skills are thing like passing, running, jumping, shooting, dribbling, defense, court vision, decision making, etc.
harping had 2 skills , (10 he had an okay mid range jumper, and (2) he was a aggressive bully of a player that pushed and played nasty, fouled a lot, and helped perpetuate the team's reputation as a dirty team, something he continues to do to this day, something that hurts the team's ability to compete.

 

[Gameface]

You've convinced me, notheast, I no longer think the Jazz sign Harpring for another contract.

 

[northeast]

What are you 10yrs. old. Harp doesn't have the height, and didnt play the same position as Favors and Kanter. As far as Burks and Hayward go, they have a completely different style of play, as apposed to Harpring's style, which was as a banging punishing sf who did a lot of posting up and moving without the ball on the perimeter hitting the curl Jumper. Harpring in his prime was a very good player.

I agree with you, which is the point of what I was saying, as I was responding to someone else stating that Harpring was a better player than the 4 young guys on the Jazz because he averaged 17 and 7. Just because Harpring in his best year averaged more rebounds than Burks will as a rookie, or more points than what Kanter will as a rookie, this does not negate what i was saying.

 

[northeast]

I think you went berserk when Harp said that Jazz should foul more. I think he was saying is that the Jazz should play tough inside, not give up easy layups, and send message fouls if necessary. Harpring was a stud player and had a great career. I think you need to chill out on what broadcasters are saying.

HE SAYS THIS EVERY SINGLE FREAKING GAME. It is a stupid thing to say. He should stop saying it.