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What's the point of keeping Lauri anymore?

Well then you’re an idiot. And that may sound harsh but it’s accurate. Danny Ainge is the best GM in the league. He’s historically great. Many have him in the front-office GOAT conversation.

This head-canon fantasy of him being senile and vengefully, singularly focused on burning his GM enemies of the past is so ****ing stupid.

It’s like calling Dave Chappelle’s comedy or Paul Thomas Anderson’s films into question because you don’t get it, so must be bad.

Upside is the worst at this, but you could be his vice president at the Bad Takes Club.
To be fair, he already admitted this thread was a bad idea out of frustration.

We have all been there. I didnt like seeing Simone go, and even Ochai who I liked as a prospect but had given up on a bit. But part of what makes DA good is that he is willing to do the tough decissions.

Doest get all of them 100% correct, but the progress he has achieved in making our roster younger and more talented without deep tanking while maintaining our cap flexibility and building our warchest are undeniable evidence
 
I would take Dennis Lindsey back if it meant he drafted for the Jazz. Just give him a mandate he can't draft centers unless they are exceptionally talented. No more trying to recreate your Rudy pick.

Say what you want, but DL was a damn good drafter. He had some bad misses which should have been obvious, but he has drafted so many good players.
The more important mandate would be for him to recuse himself from managing the PG position.
 
Doest get all of them 100% correct, but the progress he has achieved in making our roster younger and more talented without deep tanking while maintaining our cap flexibility and building our warchest are undeniable evidence
I think everyone can pretty much agree that the deals for Rudy & Donovan were absolutely great. But is the roster now more talented vs. the one that started last season? Either you're projecting both Hendricks and Sensabaugh out very, very positively or I'd say no. Simply getting younger is something anyone on this board could achieve. So, the evidence after the big deals is pretty inconclusive so far, I'd say.

The players changed from last year's starting roster:
Conley
Beasley
Olynyk
Vando
NAW
Dok

Collins
Dunn
George
Hendricks
Sensa
Yurtseven
Porter (?)
 
Release the Bolomboy!

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Well then you’re an idiot. And that may sound harsh but it’s accurate. Danny Ainge is the best GM in the league. He’s historically great. Many have him in the front-office GOAT conversation.

This head-canon fantasy of him being senile and vengefully, singularly focused on burning his GM enemies of the past is so ****ing stupid.

It’s like calling Dave Chappelle’s comedy or Paul Thomas Anderson’s films into question because you don’t get it, so must be bad.

Upside is the worst at this, but you could be his vice president at the Bad Takes Club.
I might have been trade line overreacting.

Regardless, calling people idiot, is rude, and probably tells more about the person himself.I wish you a happy life.
 
I know I opened this from frustration, but looking at things how they are... Do we really think there will be enough acquisitions next summer to make sense of holding on Lauri... This roster is now so uncompleted, it might take three seasons to make into playoffs. And players coming in are having decent options, and can affect where the are traded, why choose Jazz? Their reputation is now getting worse with latest moves and FO communication contradicting actions so heavily.

Just.. Let him go compete and tank hard for a while
 
I know I opened this from frustration, but looking at things how they are... Do we really think there will be enough acquisitions next summer to make sense of holding on Lauri... This roster is now so uncompleted, it might take three seasons to make into playoffs. And players coming in are having decent options, and can affect where the are traded, why choose Jazz? Their reputation is now getting worse with latest moves and FO communication contradicting actions so heavily.

Just.. Let him go compete and tank hard for a while
Agreed, but now Lauri's trade value has taken a hit. They could have ridden KO and the Fonz into the playoffs while making some noise. Let them both walk (or resign) them in the off-season as Lauri's trade value would be at its peak. Instead, Lauri is going to check out and fade away on a team that is going nowhere. It's a bad look. Both for Lauri and this organization that will appear willing to let their stars just fade away here.
 
This whole conversation is stupid.
It’s probably stupid for all the wrong reasons it was created considering who posted it. But for the right reasons it’s not stupid. All those draft picks are looking much worse than a year ago. In a way Lauri’s sudden rise might not turn out great for the Jazz Markkanen’s rise is going to block us from getting those top 1 to 5 picks over the first 2-3 years of a rebuild to help build a foundation and I’m losing hope that we can trade for a #1 option type star. Markkanen isn’t that. At some point the Jazz need to consider other options if we can’t get a top guy. Markkanen is great but he’s more of a support star than a lead star. Just my thoughts.
 
It’s probably stupid for all the wrong reasons it was created considering who posted it. But for the right reasons it’s not stupid. All those draft picks are looking much worse than a year ago. In a way Lauri’s sudden rise might not turn out great for the Jazz Markkanen’s rise is going to block us from getting those top 1 to 5 picks over the first 2-3 years of a rebuild to help build a foundation and I’m losing hope that we can trade for a #1 option type star. Markkanen isn’t that. At some point the Jazz need to consider other options if we can’t get a top guy. Markkanen is great but he’s more of a support star than a lead star. Just my thoughts.
This is an organization who doesn't build a team around it's star/s. Build a team around Rudy? Nope. Around Stockton/Malone? Nope. And they've done Lauri a dirty by denying him an honest playoff run. Pulled the rug right out from under him.
 
This is an organization who doesn't build a team around it's star/s. Build a team around Rudy? Nope. Around Stockton/Malone? Nope. And they've done Lauri a dirty by denying him an honest playoff run. Pulled the rug right out from under him.
What a giant load of crap. How did we not build around Rudy and Mitchell or Stockton and Malone? What happened with Rudy and Mitchell is that Lindsey screwed up badly the Favors acquisition and Dok pick that absolutely destroyed the upside potential of our team. Also playing for the play in is not pulling the rug on an honest playoff run.
 
I know I opened this from frustration, but looking at things how they are... Do we really think there will be enough acquisitions next summer to make sense of holding on Lauri... This roster is now so uncompleted, it might take three seasons to make into playoffs. And players coming in are having decent options, and can affect where the are traded, why choose Jazz? Their reputation is now getting worse with latest moves and FO communication contradicting actions so heavily.

Just.. Let him go compete and tank hard for a while
If we were going to trade him the time was at the trade deadline. Now he would be an expensive potential one year rental for a team if they traded for him. Not going to happen.
 
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