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This is the correct tax proposal for businesses; incentivizing them to make products in America and help Americans. Increasing the tax rate does the opposite.


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EDIT: LOL I read that as corporate tax break, not rate. Just what we need, even lower corporate taxes. That should fix everything, if by everything we mean nothing. Lowering the corporate tax rates for the past 50 years has been nothing short of a disaster. They need to just restore standard corporate tax rates to pre-1980 numbers.
 
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This is the correct tax proposal for businesses; incentivizing them to make products in America and help Americans. Increasing the tax rate does the opposite.


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Sweet tax break for companies that setup a token shop in Hicksville, Utah.

I really, really wish folks understood that this trickledown economics bull**** has never and will never work. The Kansas Experiment should be required reading at this point.
 
Sweet tax break for companies that setup a token shop in Hicksville, Utah.

I really, really wish folks understood that this trickledown economics bull**** has never and will never work. The Kansas Experiment should be required reading at this point.
Please tell me what raising the rate will do compared to this. Taking 7% more from businesses, without any return for the business, what does the business or American persons get out of it?
 
Please tell me what raising the rate will do compared to this. Taking 7% more from businesses, without any return for the business, what does the business or American persons get out of it?
Besides a stable environment for economic prosperity in the form of public services, reliable infrastructure, and social programs? You know, what we've had for the past 90 years while the corporate tax rate maxed out anywhere from 30% to 50%?
 
Please tell me what raising the rate will do compared to this. Taking 7% more from businesses, without any return for the business, what does the business or American persons get out of it?
Because it has historically not been a problem for the economy nor businesses in general. History has been pretty conclusive on that. Lower taxes without a guaranteed ROI is the surest way to drive up deficits because, in a general sense, businesses will do the absolute bare minimum and sometimes nothing at all while pocketing profits. We've seen it before, we're seeing it now, and we'll see it in the future. Again, read up on the Kansas Experiment. Fascinating stuff.
 
Because it has historically not been a problem for the economy nor businesses in general. History has been pretty conclusive on that. Lower taxes without a guaranteed ROI is the surest way to drive up deficits because, in a general sense, businesses will do the absolute bare minimum and sometimes nothing at all while pocketing profits. We've seen it before, we're seeing it now, and we'll see it in the future. Again, read up on the Kansas Experiment. Fascinating stuff.
You should probably read up on the Kansas Experiment. This isn't dropping income tax by 30% or business tax to 0%. Not the same thing.
 
You’re probably against fixing spending as well since Trump is proposing it as well.


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Sure, crackdown on how the government spends.

Also, make the wealthy pay more in taxes.

Both things together would be pretty sweet imo.

I know what trump thinks about the wealthy and taxes. Not sure what Kamala thinks about cracking down on government spending.

I have a strong feeling that if trump is part of the government (president) and he thinks spending is good for him then the things he is saying now will mean very little then.

Trump tends to lie a lot and his administration spent hella when he was president (added a ton to the deficit)

I don't believe anything trump says.

First President in history to increase the national debt by nearly $7.8 trillion. A sum translating to $23,500 in new debt per person across the country!

First President in history to maintain a debt-to-GDP ratio over 100% for his entire term. With the highest annual budget deficit, adding the most amount to the national debt in a single term.

First President in history to serve a full term and increase the deficit every year he was in office.

Trump has had some good ideas. I loved his idea of getting us better healthcare in America. Loved his idea to get a good infrastructure deal in place. It would be cool if Mexico paid for a border wall.

Turns out though that often times trump, and other politicians, just talk about things without actually doing them.

Even after this discussion trump remains the most corrupt, immoral, scandalous and dishonest candidate in history. No matter how many tweets or articles come out between now and election time that distinction won't change.

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Besides a stable environment for economic prosperity in the form of public services, reliable infrastructure, and social programs? You know, what we've had for the past 90 years while the corporate tax rate maxed out anywhere from 30% to 50%?
The corporate tax rate was that high when the rest of the industrialized world was destroyed and American companies had nowhere to go. Once other areas of the planet developed or rebuilt and lowered their own tax rates, there was a mass exodus. It was then that America lowered its tax rate to a level that was globally competitive. Now you want to ignore the modern reality and set the American tax rates to a level we already know causes capital flight? Do you plan on shooting the heads of corporations who shift their profit centers abroad? Do you plan on having government seize factories to finally bring about the workers paradise that has never been tried?

Given that you favor transitioning the United States into an economic environment that is hostile, compared to where corporations could be claiming taxable revenue, what is your plan here to not collapse tax revenues? 50% of zero is zero.
 
Besides a stable environment for economic prosperity in the form of public services, reliable infrastructure, and social programs? You know, what we've had for the past 90 years while the corporate tax rate maxed out anywhere from 30% to 50%?
So all this tax got us:
19th / 29th in Social Progress

2nd / 16th Infrastructure/Public Transportation

12th / 59th in Business Economic Prosperity

All with MASSIVE debt.

You want to bring more businesses back home, give them an incentive. You want to keep businesses from leaving, give them an incentive.

I do not see how dropping a tax rate for a business that makes products in America will now make all the public services, reliable infrastructure and social programs all go away.
 
I do not see how dropping a tax rate for a business that makes products in America will now make all the public services, reliable infrastructure and social programs all go away.

Taxes are how public services, infrastructure, and social programs are paid for.

Ergo, lowering tax rate = less tax revenue = less money for public services, Infrastructure, social programs. I mean that is quite easy to see.

Maybe a good idea is to lower the corporate tax rate and also mandate that a certain amount of the profits from companies go directly to public services, infrastructure, and social programs. I'm down with that alternative.


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So all this tax got us:
19th / 29th in Social Progress

2nd / 16th Infrastructure/Public Transportation

12th / 59th in Business Economic Prosperity

All with MASSIVE debt.
This seems like an incredibly strong argument for the exact opposite of dramatically slashing corporate tax rates.
 
Just speaking for myself.....

I make no where close to 100,000 dollars per year for my entire household. I'm paycheck to paycheck for life. I don't want my taxes lowered. I'm getting by ok. I think I should have to contribute to all the awesome things in this great country.




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Yeah, it pretty much is. Again, read up on it and the history on those taxes in general. Fascinating stuff.
Dropping a rate 6% for companies that make products in America is the same as dropping income tax 30% and businesses tax rates to 0%?

Not the same.

Lets see how high taxes work in these blue states:

People leaving the state of Massachusetts cost the state 3.9 billion in 2022
California - 23.8 billion
NY - 14.2 Billion
Illinois - 9.9 Billion
New Jersey - 5.3 Billion

High Taxes, High Regulation, High Cost of Living = mass exodus

Let's see what a business man says about these states and taxes:

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This seems like an incredibly strong argument for the exact opposite of dramatically slashing corporate tax rates.
But all the people who got rich in America would leave and go to a different country if their taxes went up
How patriotic of them. **** em.

(I actually don't think they would leave and instead would continue to simply cheat the system and stay here)

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Just speaking for myself.....

I make no where close to 100,000 dollars per year for my entire household. I'm paycheck to paycheck for life. I don't want my taxes lowered. I'm getting by ok. I think I should have to contribute to all the awesome things in this great country.




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So you're ok with a 7% increase? 80k would be a $5600 hit to you. Are you okay with that?
 
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This seems like an incredibly strong argument for the exact opposite of dramatically slashing corporate tax rates.
You can do both, at the same time.

Cutting spending, cutting taxes for certain reasons. Still spend and improve social services.
 
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But all the people who got rich in America would leave and go to a different country if their taxes went up
How patriotic of them. **** em.

(I actually don't think they would leave and instead would continue to simply cheat the system and stay here)

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We have a 90 year history of a 30%-50% corporate tax rate objectively working and working extremely well, and he's posting horror stories of people leaving individual states along with some appeal to a billionaire's authority (lol).

Like what are we even doing here?
 
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