Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

[The Midnight]

I also read some other Athletic reporter saying that he has sensed that NBA execs like VJ better than Ace.

If Ace is available at 5 though, Zanik will sprint to the podium faster than he did with Cody. There is no way DA passes on Ace, ever.

Yes but at this point he’s the last on my list.

For me personally I just don't see enough aggressiveness, assertiveness or fight in him compared to VJ and Tre.

I dont think he’ll be as bad as Cody but I’m just not sold.

Did you see this clip of him and Harper working out with Giannis? Compared to Harper he seemed “slow” and just not as assertive as Harper.

I just don't see much “fire” in him as I would have liked.


View: https://youtu.be/tXbGfHBRx_8?si=KbtbYBHnFXBn-RCD

 

[NUMBERICA]

I have this nagging feeling in the back of my head that there is something off with Ace. I cant point my finger on one thing and prove my point with solid arguments... but my gut says he is 2025 drafts overadvertized promiseware.

Call me idiot all you want... but Id rather have Tre or VJ.

He is saying all the wrong things with the wrong attitude. I could see him fall out of the top-5.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

We're probably headed for a situation where VJ goes #3, Tre goes #4, and the Jazz pass on Ace still to pick like Kon.

 

[jom2003]

We're probably headed for a situation where VJ goes #3, Tre goes #4, and the Jazz pass on Ace still to pick like Kon.

If it is Ace who falls to 5 then just trade down. To me this draft is 4 man deep. I'd take prospects in the late lottery/teens over Ace.

 

[Bodhi]

Challenge accepted, he follows me on Twitter so I just sent him a DM.

Who is Chad and who is Art?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Who is Chad and who is Art?

Chad is HH Art is Eliza

 

[Bodhi]

Chad is HH Art is Eliza

Thanks

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What about Kuminga and Green do you think is holding them back? It it just the BBIQ? I feel like they're lacking in some skill development, but I think both have awesome talent. I used to joke that Cade was seen as Luka until the season started and he actually had to play basketball, but he did actually put it all together. Don't know if there's a real trend or model to be followed, but I do think Cade has always been a more intelligent player than the other two.

Kuminga shooting and playing with others. I think if I was betting on one to really figure it out it would be him. The GS system is hard. I don't think he has the feel but if there was a sign and trade option where we send Collins for JK and let him explore the space I could get on board. 4/80-100M is the range I am cool with. Would love a team option on the final year. We probably need to start making bets.

Green its feel and just the shot not as good as it needs to be. I would also see how he looks without a post player and with some shooting. I do wonder if there is some stuff to unlock there.

They both just remind me of AAU cone drill kids. Looks at this cool **** we can do... then they go on the court with the old guys and lose 5 straight games.

 

[Bodhi]

Kuminga shooting and playing with others. I think if I was betting on one to really figure it out it would be him. The GS system is hard. I don't think he has the feel but if there was a sign and trade option where we send Collins for JK and let him explore the space I could get on board. 4/80-100M is the range I am cool with. Would love a team option on the final year. We probably need to start making bets.

Green its feel and just the shot not as good as it needs to be. I would also see how he looks without a post player and with some shooting. I do wonder if there is some stuff to unlock there.

They both just remind me of AAU cone drill kids. Looks at this cool **** we can do... then they go on the court with the old guys and lose 5 straight games.

100% on this and taking bets. Kid is still 22 and has immense tools.

This is the kind of swing we need to take in this part of our build.

 

[fishonjazz]

What about Kuminga and Green do you think is holding them back? It it just the BBIQ? I feel like they're lacking in some skill development, but I think both have awesome talent. I used to joke that Cade was seen as Luka until the season started and he actually had to play basketball, but he did actually put it all together. Don't know if there's a real trend or model to be followed, but I do think Cade has always been a more intelligent player than the other two.

Could part of kuminga issue simply be that he went to a win now team and didn't get the role, leash, minutes to play though mistakes and make people think he is an up and coming star?

 

[Bodhi]

Could part of kuminga issue simply be that he went to a win now team and didn't get the role, leash, minutes to pay though mistakes and make people think he is an up and coming star?

I do, yes. 2-way star potential.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

100% on this and taking bets. Kid is still 22 and has immense tools.

This is the kind of swing we need to take in this part of our build.

Especially once we are whiffing.

Kuminga separately I think there is a deal.

The other guys in a potential Lauri deal that may be worth the bet are Jaden Ivey and Jalen Green. Like they can't be the reason for the deal but I could see them taking a step and making the deal look good/better.