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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Then we ain’t winning a chip and will be right back to rebuilding once management realizes this

Got news for you it will be 4-8 years
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Depends if we trade away most our main pieces. Have picks 3 and 5 this year and tben got a top 3 pick next year. Could see the team getting good around year 3-4 but I’m only looking at it with rose colored glasses. I’d be against the trade especially bc I think we aren’t terribly far away
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The speculation is you get future picks as well
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There’s definitely a trade out there involving PG13. Future picks and #5 for something like Collins, sexton, keyonte and 21 or some variation I would find extremely hard to say no to. Like you said, we’ve got the cap space for the next few years and anyone who thinks this team is competing in 2 years has lost their marbles unless we just magically get a gift.

I just think the 76ers are going to want to much and it won’t happen
 
Lauri and the #21 for George, #3, a 2026 unprotected 1st... and a future swap... and you have a deal. We take on the leagues worst contract, make Philly relevant again, balance their roster, and we get lots of pieces for doing the favor. We also are destined to get a high 26 pick.
 
Schrödinger's Gerbil said:
I keep wondering what the plan is for those who want to trade away all our talent to continue to speculate in the draft ad nauseam. Do they enjoy losing?
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No, but I didn`t enjoy the Al Jefferson-led team getting swept by the Spurs in the first round of the play offs either. I think the plan is to keep searching for the one special player. When they feel they got him, either through trade or the draft, the tank is over.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Lauri and the #21 for George, #3, a 2026 unprotected 1st... and a future swap... and you have a deal. We take on the leagues worst contract, make Philly relevant again, balance their roster, and we get lots of pieces for doing the favor. We also are destined to get a high 26 pick.
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Ya this is how the trade should look for the jazz to do it.
**** PG and his contract. Philly needs to give us a bunch. We keep 5 and get 3 and another first. That's probably enough really without the swap but the swap is a nice little sweetener.
 
fishonjazz said:
might be the worst contract in the entire nba
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At the end of it it certainly will be. Without question. Maybe the exact current value is somewhat ok but in 3 years it'll be the worst contact out there by far.
 
Don’t the 76ers owe their 2026 pick to the Thunder since they kept their pick this year? I’m pretty sure there’s still conditions left on that trade.

Almost as dumb as the Jazz trade with Favors. . .

Moral of the story. . . never trade lightly protected picks to get off cumbersome salary. Plan for opportunities to clear cap space into your budget so you’re not faced with making a bad decision or an even worse one.

Also, don’t trade for Paul George unless you’re willing to do the full 3 year lift. . .
 
I'd suggest this version...
Jazz get Paul George and the 2025 #3
76ers get Lauri Markkanen, 2025 #21, and the 2027 Lakers pick that is top 4 protected.

The Jazz would have 2 top 5 picks in 2025 to greatly jumpstart the rebuild and we have rights to these players for I believe 7 years. and they will likely still be bad enough this season to keep our 2026 pick away from OKC that is top 8 protected which is basically like getting another good pick in the trade.

The 76ers get a win now piece in Lauri to pair with Embid and Maxey etc. They get off George's contract. They get an inexpensive rookie in both the 2025 and 2027 drafts. That Lakers pick has the potential to be a mid-lottery pick so that could spur some hope among fans.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
No, but I didn`t enjoy the Al Jefferson-led team getting swept by the Spurs in the first round of the play offs either. I think the plan is to keep searching for the one special player. When they feel they got him, either through trade or the draft, the tank is over.
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They were back in the conference semis after four losing seasons with a single top 10 pick, Dante Exum, who was not a factor in returning to the playoffs. We're now heading into the fourth losing season since we were last in the playoffs, and everyone here seems to be more interested in trading away talent and accumulating draft picks year after year with an indefinite timeline for returning to contention than they are in actually returning to contention. The losing could easily stretch to 6 years under this scenario. That requires a lot of winning post-tank to earn an acceptable ROI on the losing investment. The post Al Jefferson era is not a good model for what is going on now.

What's the plan if we don't find that one special player this draft, or the next draft, or the next draft? What's the cutoff point where we stop pining our hopes on the lottery and actually start being proactive building a winning team via other means?

Assuming we do find that one special player this year or next, how long till we return to contention when our roster is fully stocked with rookie contracts or sub-optimal talent because we traded all the good talent away while crossing our fingers to get lucky in the lottery? Even with Wemby, the Spurs are two years in without a single playoff appearance and six years of losing to show for it. (With Wemby, they were heading for the play in last year.)

What's the minimum ROI you expect for 6 years or more of losing?
 
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I'd suggest this version...
Jazz get Paul George and the 2025 #3
76ers get Lauri Markkanen, 2025 #21, and the 2027 Lakers pick that is top 4 protected.

The Jazz would have 2 top 5 picks in 2025 to greatly jumpstart the rebuild and we have rights to these players for I believe 7 years. and they will likely still be bad enough this season to keep our 2026 pick away from OKC that is top 8 protected which is basically like getting another good pick in the trade.

The 76ers get a win now piece in Lauri to pair with Embid and Maxey etc. They get off George's contract. They get an inexpensive rookie in both the 2025 and 2027 drafts. That Lakers pick has the potential to be a mid-lottery pick so that could spur some hope among fans.
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Thats close but I still wouldn't do it. I need a little more. We keep #21 or the lakers pick or get a future first.
But im a homer so its probably fair I guess.
 
3 and 5 would be incredible but also sorta funky. You dont really take VJ and Tre I dont think. So then you take the Ace risk and pick him and Tre I would think.

Or VJ and Kon.......anyway.
 
Schrödinger's Gerbil said:
They were back in the conference semis after four losing seasons with a single top 10 pick, Dante Exum, who was not a factor in returning to the playoffs. We're now heading into the fourth losing season since we were last in the playoffs, and everyone here seems to be more interested in trading away talent and accumulating draft picks year after year with an indefinite timeline for returning to contention than they are in actually returning to contention. The losing could easily stretch to 6 years under this scenario. That requires a lot of winning post-tank to earn an acceptable ROI on the losing investment. The post Al Jefferson era is not a good model for what is going on now.

What's the plan if we don't find that one special player this draft, or the next draft, or the next draft? What's the cutoff point where we stop pining our hopes on the lottery and actually start being proactive building a winning team via other means?

Assuming we do find that one special player this year or next, how long till we return to contention when our roster is fully stocked with rookie contracts or sub-optimal talent because we traded all the good talent away while crossing our fingers to get lucky in the lottery? Even with Wemby, the Spurs are two years in without a single playoff appearance and six years of losing to show for it. (With Wemby, they were heading for the play in last year.)

What's the minimum ROI you expect for 6 years or more of losing?
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I’m on record saying this will be a 4-8 year and beyond process. We’ve rebuilt fast twice in the last twenty years. In those 20 years all we have to show for it is a bunch of regular season wins. Twenty damn years!!! No thank you. Basically you rebuild till it happens.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I’m on record saying this will be a 4-8 year and beyond process. We’ve rebuilt fast twice in the last twenty years. In those 20 years all we have to show for it is a bunch of regular season wins. Twenty damn years!!! No thank you. Basically you rebuild till it happens.
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What's the likelihood of positive ROI under this scenario, assuming we define a minimum positive ROI as an equal or greater number of consecutive playoff years post-tank as consecutive losing years or, alternatively, an equal or greater number of total playoff years post-tank as losing years, not even accounting for how deep those playoff runs are?
 
Bodhi said:
3 and 5 would be incredible but also sorta funky. You dont really take VJ and Tre I dont think. So then you take the Ace risk and pick him and Tre I would think.

Or VJ and Kon.......anyway.
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If we really did get the 3 and 5, I would take VJ, then I would look to trade back the #5 to the highest bidder between thr 6, 7, and 8 teams (Wash, Brooklyn, NOP) and still get Kon or Maluach. Then I would trade Kessler and get a new restart on the build.

But I dont think we will get the 3rd pick for taking on PGs contract even if I think it would be one of the best moves the 76rs could make.
 
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