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Following potential 2012 draftees
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orangello
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Do they know Michael Beasely?
Looks like that crackhead character from the Chappelle show. Just put a little white powder around his mouth and nose and it is perfect lol
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Question to all of the posters that know Austin Rivers fairly well:
If we were to draft him, how do you predict that a backcourt with Rivers and Burks would fare?
I am assuming that our core will be:
Rivers/Lillard/Marshall/FA PG
Burks
Drafted SF or Hayward, with one of the two being a 6th man
Favors
Kanter
Will the lack of a dedicated distributor hurt this team when we start making the playoffs, once our youth develops? Can any of you see a Rivers/Burks one-two punch being the best thing since sliced bread, or rather a poor, poor mans curry/ellis backcourt? Are the two players similar in terms of what thy offer, and how they play? I know PKM has said that a lot of GMs see Rivers as a PG, so that is what I am basing this off of. If we draft Rives, will we still need to find a PG?
If we were to draft him, how do you predict that a backcourt with Rivers and Burks would fare?
I am assuming that our core will be:
Rivers/Lillard/Marshall/FA PG
Burks
Drafted SF or Hayward, with one of the two being a 6th man
Favors
Kanter
Will the lack of a dedicated distributor hurt this team when we start making the playoffs, once our youth develops? Can any of you see a Rivers/Burks one-two punch being the best thing since sliced bread, or rather a poor, poor mans curry/ellis backcourt? Are the two players similar in terms of what thy offer, and how they play? I know PKM has said that a lot of GMs see Rivers as a PG, so that is what I am basing this off of. If we draft Rives, will we still need to find a PG?
Problem is Curry is a better passer than Rivers or Burks. I would not want to be a big man with this backcourt they would probably never see the ball.
Just for kicks, I went back to look at my original 'pre-season' top 22 (notes added);
1. Andre Drummond - I am now firmly with Drummond at #2 and Davis at #1.
2. Anthony Davis - See above
3. Harrison Barnes - I am not as high on Barnes as I was, but not as down on him as most. Probably move him into the 5 or 6 range.
4. Kidd-Gilchrist - I love MKG, but I would now move him down to the 7 or 8 range.
5. Quincy Miller - Have seen a bit of what I expected. I'd say around 6'ish.
6. Brad Beal - Very disappointed in the season. I think Beal should be moved down to late lottery.
7. Jarred Sullinger - I started the season lower on Sullinger than most. I'm now thinking he should go 10'ish.
8. Perry Jones - I started the season lower on PJIII than most. I think 8 is about right.
9. James McAdoo - I still like McADoo, but he's seen limited minutes and will likely stay put another year. If he came out this year, I'd put him in the 14-15 range.
10. Terrence Jones - Disappointing year. I'd put TJones around 13-15.
11. Marquis Teague - Not ready for the NBA. Move down to 18-20.
12. Thomas Robinson - Very impressed. I missed this one. Move him up to 4 or 5.
13. Austin Rivers - Seen roughly what I expected. I'd move him up, though, to around 8-10.
14. Jeremy Lamb - I called it. He'll start strong and fizzle. He has fizzled. I like him right where he's at ... late lottery.
15. John Henson - Very much improved. I'm impressed. He'll get pushed around a lot, but he's a player. Around 12.
16. Patric Young - Wow, underwhelming thus far. Nice player, but a little undersized (a la Sullinger). Around 20-22.
17. Tyler Zeller - About what I expected. This is about right.
18. Festus Ezeli - Limited action, but about on pace. 19-22
19. Myck Kabongo - Most like him more than I do. I think he'll stay another year, but if he were in this draft, I'd put him late first round.
20. Tony Wroten, jr - I think he'll stay in school. He's fun to watch, but scouts are not high on him, at all. Early 2nd.
21. Kendall Marshall - Exceeded my expectations. Move up about 3 or 4 spots.
22. John Jenkins - About what I expected. Stay put.
I know, I know .. I put a number of people in the same range. When I can get a little more time, I'll do a new first round mock of my opinions and let the heckling begin.
1. Andre Drummond - I am now firmly with Drummond at #2 and Davis at #1.
2. Anthony Davis - See above
3. Harrison Barnes - I am not as high on Barnes as I was, but not as down on him as most. Probably move him into the 5 or 6 range.
4. Kidd-Gilchrist - I love MKG, but I would now move him down to the 7 or 8 range.
5. Quincy Miller - Have seen a bit of what I expected. I'd say around 6'ish.
6. Brad Beal - Very disappointed in the season. I think Beal should be moved down to late lottery.
7. Jarred Sullinger - I started the season lower on Sullinger than most. I'm now thinking he should go 10'ish.
8. Perry Jones - I started the season lower on PJIII than most. I think 8 is about right.
9. James McAdoo - I still like McADoo, but he's seen limited minutes and will likely stay put another year. If he came out this year, I'd put him in the 14-15 range.
10. Terrence Jones - Disappointing year. I'd put TJones around 13-15.
11. Marquis Teague - Not ready for the NBA. Move down to 18-20.
12. Thomas Robinson - Very impressed. I missed this one. Move him up to 4 or 5.
13. Austin Rivers - Seen roughly what I expected. I'd move him up, though, to around 8-10.
14. Jeremy Lamb - I called it. He'll start strong and fizzle. He has fizzled. I like him right where he's at ... late lottery.
15. John Henson - Very much improved. I'm impressed. He'll get pushed around a lot, but he's a player. Around 12.
16. Patric Young - Wow, underwhelming thus far. Nice player, but a little undersized (a la Sullinger). Around 20-22.
17. Tyler Zeller - About what I expected. This is about right.
18. Festus Ezeli - Limited action, but about on pace. 19-22
19. Myck Kabongo - Most like him more than I do. I think he'll stay another year, but if he were in this draft, I'd put him late first round.
20. Tony Wroten, jr - I think he'll stay in school. He's fun to watch, but scouts are not high on him, at all. Early 2nd.
21. Kendall Marshall - Exceeded my expectations. Move up about 3 or 4 spots.
22. John Jenkins - About what I expected. Stay put.
I know, I know .. I put a number of people in the same range. When I can get a little more time, I'll do a new first round mock of my opinions and let the heckling begin.
Good question. Sounds scary to me and I know that saying that flies in the face of other statements I've said regarding Rivers. I'm not in the camp that you have to have an elite pass-first PG in order to win a championship. However, if you don't have one, you must have great shooters and great slashers. I envision Rivers having no trouble bringing the ball up the court, no trouble getting into the lane (especially with the floor spread), and learning to dump it off to one of our bigs in lieu of a circus shot.
I only think this duo is doable if Burks is a legit threat from the perimeter. I do admit that, even then, it just sounds a little scary .. but FAR better than what we're watching right now .. at least it would be highly entertaining.
My new/current first round mock (BPA); (I am well aware that this will be very unpopular)
1. Anthony Davis (lock)
2. Andre Drummond (lock)
3. Thomas Robinson
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Quincy Miller
6. Perry Jones
7. Austin Rivers
8. Jarred Sullinger
9. John Henson
10. Terrence Jones
11. Brad Beal
12. Jeremy Lamb
13. Tyler Zeller
14. Meyers Leonard
15. Kandall Marshall
16. Arnett Moultrie
17. Damian Lillard
18. Terrence Ross
19. Mike Moser
20. Patric Young
21. Jeffrey Taylor
22. Festus Ezeli
23. John Jenkins
24. Dion Waiters
25. Tony Mitchell
26. Lebryan Nash
27. Doron Lamb
28. Kevin Jones
29. CJ Leslie
30. Fab Melo
(I think MKG skips the draft, as well as Teague, Kabongo, and maybe Wroten ..)
1. Anthony Davis (lock)
2. Andre Drummond (lock)
3. Thomas Robinson
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Quincy Miller
6. Perry Jones
7. Austin Rivers
8. Jarred Sullinger
9. John Henson
10. Terrence Jones
11. Brad Beal
12. Jeremy Lamb
13. Tyler Zeller
14. Meyers Leonard
15. Kandall Marshall
16. Arnett Moultrie
17. Damian Lillard
18. Terrence Ross
19. Mike Moser
20. Patric Young
21. Jeffrey Taylor
22. Festus Ezeli
23. John Jenkins
24. Dion Waiters
25. Tony Mitchell
26. Lebryan Nash
27. Doron Lamb
28. Kevin Jones
29. CJ Leslie
30. Fab Melo
(I think MKG skips the draft, as well as Teague, Kabongo, and maybe Wroten ..)
Thee Jazz Fan
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I just think at his size, athleticism, and skill set, you have to take a chance over Rivers that will be great but easier to find around the league.