he'll probably ask his patients for a "you're in" specimen!!!!
What do Jazzfanz do professionally (...assuming they have jobs) ?
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he'll probably ask his patients for a "you're in" specimen!!!!
The Black Swordsman
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You probably don't want anyone's advice especially mine but if I had to repick my major I would choose computer science.
I know someone who was an economics major but knows AJAX, PHP, and C and got a better job just by knowing those languages then by his economics major.
I am a Biology major with a concentration in Physiology (In USA you have to get a bachelors before you go to medschool unlike most of europe and rest of world) and if I don't get into Med school I am ****ed. I bought two books on PERL which is for some reason the most common program language for Biology and I really enjoy it.
Also have you seen social network!!! That guy created facebook after just being a sophomore as a computer science major!
You can make websites, cell phone apps, video games, anything to do with computers.
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Yup, I need a bachelor's degree as well, if I want to get into med school (which I am actually strongly considering). Unfortunately, I am just poorly handling my situation of actually picking courses that I am interested in, for the first time in my life. Up until this point, I always took classes that I was "required" to take; now, this lack of structure is kind of worrisome to me.
I was thinking of majoring in physiology, and Im trying to enrol in physiology this september. How difficult is it? Computer Science is seriously not up my alley, but Biology might be. Im basically torn in a three-way battle between Physics, Biology, and Chemistry. I will end up majoring in two- I just don't know which ones, at the moment.
Hipporippo
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Take the DAT and do Dental school. Medicine is NOT what you think it is.
Hipporippo
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Another word on medicine:
It is a service industry. But, unlike law where a great lawyer can charge what he is worth, the best doctor is paid the same as the worst doctor for a given visit or procedure.
There is no freedom with government takeover. Unless you do plastics, you will become a well-paid government employee (but without the union, benefits, or security of a government job). Once the government has taken the market out of health care, they can make physician reimbursements whatever they want...salaries will be cut far more than they already have.
Medicine requires the largest upfront investment of any profession: minimum of 11yrs up to 16+yrs after high school working 60-80 hour weeks depending on specialty, and 150k to 300k of debt for med school alone at 6.8% (federal student loan fixed rate). When done, a primary care doc will make just over $100k per yr. Didn't somebody just mention what an auto mechanic can make? My plumber makes more per hour than I do...by far! I just work a LOT more hours than the standard plumber.
Do the math. If you work a 50k/yr job while living like you would during med school and residency (living allowance ~12k) for those first 8yrs of working and banked the rest, you would come out on top. This assumes only a conservative return on investment of 7% per year (compared to 200k+ of debt accruing 6.8% interest throughout training). If you worked overtime equivalent to physician hours (60-80/wk), it only adds to the effect.
The only way to come out ahead in medicine would be to do something like plastics (or dentistry) where you can set your own prices.
Doctors seem well-off because they have lived like paupers and worked their asses off throughout their young adult lives. At the end of training, they haven't spent much but have logged twice the number of "work hours" as their average counterparts.
In the end, they are rewarded with a seemingly well-reimbursed career. But again, you need to compare salary to hours worked and subtract financial investment and opportunity cost.
One shouldn't become a physician for the money because it isn't there. But, job satisfaction has taken a major hit for most of us. We are forced to work more hours and take on more patients to make ends meet. Additionally, physicians are not respected as they once were. The entitled generation (surprisingly I mean both the baby boomers and generation X) assumes a fast food mentality where they order what they want and tell the doctor what to do.
I would NOT tell my children to pursue medicine and I caution you to think VERY carefully before you do so.
It is a service industry. But, unlike law where a great lawyer can charge what he is worth, the best doctor is paid the same as the worst doctor for a given visit or procedure.
There is no freedom with government takeover. Unless you do plastics, you will become a well-paid government employee (but without the union, benefits, or security of a government job). Once the government has taken the market out of health care, they can make physician reimbursements whatever they want...salaries will be cut far more than they already have.
Medicine requires the largest upfront investment of any profession: minimum of 11yrs up to 16+yrs after high school working 60-80 hour weeks depending on specialty, and 150k to 300k of debt for med school alone at 6.8% (federal student loan fixed rate). When done, a primary care doc will make just over $100k per yr. Didn't somebody just mention what an auto mechanic can make? My plumber makes more per hour than I do...by far! I just work a LOT more hours than the standard plumber.
Do the math. If you work a 50k/yr job while living like you would during med school and residency (living allowance ~12k) for those first 8yrs of working and banked the rest, you would come out on top. This assumes only a conservative return on investment of 7% per year (compared to 200k+ of debt accruing 6.8% interest throughout training). If you worked overtime equivalent to physician hours (60-80/wk), it only adds to the effect.
The only way to come out ahead in medicine would be to do something like plastics (or dentistry) where you can set your own prices.
Doctors seem well-off because they have lived like paupers and worked their asses off throughout their young adult lives. At the end of training, they haven't spent much but have logged twice the number of "work hours" as their average counterparts.
In the end, they are rewarded with a seemingly well-reimbursed career. But again, you need to compare salary to hours worked and subtract financial investment and opportunity cost.
One shouldn't become a physician for the money because it isn't there. But, job satisfaction has taken a major hit for most of us. We are forced to work more hours and take on more patients to make ends meet. Additionally, physicians are not respected as they once were. The entitled generation (surprisingly I mean both the baby boomers and generation X) assumes a fast food mentality where they order what they want and tell the doctor what to do.
I would NOT tell my children to pursue medicine and I caution you to think VERY carefully before you do so.
Cocaine
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Being serious? Not poking fun, I just frequently shop there. Used to live in the apartments to the East and would always just walk and hop over the fence.
Cocaine
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I work for a subsidiary of Warner Truck Center in West Valley City Utah called Warner Fleet Services( https://www.Warnerfs.com ). I have changed my title to "Maintenance Agent Extraordinaire."
In short, I help idiotic drivers for different companies(Airgas, CR England, Miller Brothers, O'Reilly) troubleshoot issues when they've broken down, have a flat tire, etc(any issues preventing their unit from moving and delivering product).
Shorter - I work the graveyard shift, so we don't get many calls. My Co-Worker and I watch movies and process paperwork, occasionally bring our game systems in and hook it up to our monitors. Job is fantastic. Great people, free gym across the street, discounted parts for any type of vehicle, discounted VIP Gold's Gym Memberships..but the Health Insurance is balls. $260ish per check for my wife and I and they won't cover anything until we've paid $2500 out of pocket. Not happening. So my wife, who has been out of work with an ankle injury since November 29th, 2010 is still struggling.
Looking for a second job. Trout, need someone to give you a daily tug? I'm cheap.
In short, I help idiotic drivers for different companies(Airgas, CR England, Miller Brothers, O'Reilly) troubleshoot issues when they've broken down, have a flat tire, etc(any issues preventing their unit from moving and delivering product).
Shorter - I work the graveyard shift, so we don't get many calls. My Co-Worker and I watch movies and process paperwork, occasionally bring our game systems in and hook it up to our monitors. Job is fantastic. Great people, free gym across the street, discounted parts for any type of vehicle, discounted VIP Gold's Gym Memberships..but the Health Insurance is balls. $260ish per check for my wife and I and they won't cover anything until we've paid $2500 out of pocket. Not happening. So my wife, who has been out of work with an ankle injury since November 29th, 2010 is still struggling.
Looking for a second job. Trout, need someone to give you a daily tug? I'm cheap.
asian_roger
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I used to sell appliances and electronics at a retail store for 5 years until I lost respect for the management and corporation I worked for and walked out (*cough* the entire national company is probably going to shut down in two years). I was proud of what I did and personally love selling, now I am a U student pursuing a degree in Business Operations Managements. I am looking for a job, any ideas folks?
squareinthecircle
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I'm a former electrician out on disability for RA. Still waiting on permanent disability but it should go through soon. I get to stay at home and do drugs legally and raise my beautiful daughter. I'm gonna need to retrain soon also. The drugs have compromised my mind a bit and now I'm at mortal level. Thinking about going to Heald for their Shepherding certificate.
The Black Swordsman
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Thanks! Ya I heard a lot about this, there was a blog I read once called 100 things I wish I knew about medicine and all of it is negative.
I don't care if Doctors got 50k a year, I really want to be one. Also, I have already invested my BA in biology with physiology concentration and I do not want to pursue a PHD route.