2013 Chicago Combine May 15-19
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When Derek Fisher is done "playing", and becomes an agent... we won't have to ask that question anymore.
mellow
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From Chad Ford Chat at the Combine:
Seth Curry is injured and won't be participating in the drills and athletic testing, so it will be hard to help his stock here. Ditto for Ryan Kelly.
Jared (Orlando, FL)Do you know why Michael Snaer was not invited to the combine?
Chad Ford (1:41 PM)The NBA provides all 30 teams with a ballot of a few hundred draft-eligible players. Each team votes for 60 players & NBA tallies the votes. The NBA invites the players receiving the most votes from teams with an eye toward arriving at (or near) 60 total participants. Snaer, surprisingly, didn't make the cut.
What are the main things scouts keep an eye out for during the combine?
Chad Ford (1:08 PM)It's tough honestly. The top players won't participate in the drills. The rest will, but truthfully, the drills won't tell you much. One thing they look for is effort and energy. When players don't take this seriously, it's a red flag. They'll be looking for conditioning. Who has been working out and getting their body better. Some times they are looking to see whether a prospect has been working on a weakness. Have the adjusted shot mechanics or tightened up a handle. Interviews and the medical are the two biggest things. This is their first time to meet the players and ask them tough questions. Obviously the medical is the first chance for team doctors to have a look. Most overrated is the athletic testing. It's sexy, but doesn't have a huge impact on draft decisions.
Seth Curry is injured and won't be participating in the drills and athletic testing, so it will be hard to help his stock here. Ditto for Ryan Kelly.
Jared (Orlando, FL)Do you know why Michael Snaer was not invited to the combine?
Chad Ford (1:41 PM)The NBA provides all 30 teams with a ballot of a few hundred draft-eligible players. Each team votes for 60 players & NBA tallies the votes. The NBA invites the players receiving the most votes from teams with an eye toward arriving at (or near) 60 total participants. Snaer, surprisingly, didn't make the cut.
What are the main things scouts keep an eye out for during the combine?
Chad Ford (1:08 PM)It's tough honestly. The top players won't participate in the drills. The rest will, but truthfully, the drills won't tell you much. One thing they look for is effort and energy. When players don't take this seriously, it's a red flag. They'll be looking for conditioning. Who has been working out and getting their body better. Some times they are looking to see whether a prospect has been working on a weakness. Have the adjusted shot mechanics or tightened up a handle. Interviews and the medical are the two biggest things. This is their first time to meet the players and ask them tough questions. Obviously the medical is the first chance for team doctors to have a look. Most overrated is the athletic testing. It's sexy, but doesn't have a huge impact on draft decisions.
Kind of ****ty how some players get an invite and say they won't be doing stuff last second. Might as well let the NBA know ahead of time so they could invite someone else instead.
mellow
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Chad Ford @chadfordinsiderNo surprise, but Ben McLemore also pulling out of drills portion of NBA Draft Combine. Will participate in athletic testing....More top prospects pulling out of drills portion of NBA draft combine: CJ McCollum, Cody Zeller, Michael Carter-Williams
from an ESPN interview from the Combine:
Q. The other question is more generic about what the NBA teams get out of the combine as opposed to running drills, I suppose, and measuring and so on, as opposed to what they see in actual competition in college games or in other settings?
FORD: I think one thing is this is a lot of times the first time that head coaches and coaching staff are really seeing these guys. They are so busy during the season coaching their own teams and scouting other NBA teams they don’t have a lot of time to get out and really scout these players, so this is often their exposure to this. And depending on the NBA team, some coaches have more of a say or less of a say in that drafting process, so that’s big.
Frankly for some of these GMs they are out extensively scouting throughout the year and some of them don’t. So, again, for some of the GMs, this is the first time in the gym with these players and first impressions can mean a lot.
As far as what they learn from an actual scouting perspective, I don’t think there is much there. I think the actual interviews they do with the players are much bigger. This is the first time that they’re allowed to sit down with the players and actually talk with them, they have to bring team psychologists in, and they bring the team doctors there to check them out medically. This is the first time for them to have that one on one experience with the players. And I think if you talk to most NBA teams, that is the thing that they get the most out of it.
Maybe one other thing I’d say is it’s the only time that all of these players are going to be on the floor together, so you get to see relative size, relative athleticism, relative skill level compared to each other on the floor at the same time. But as far as changing scouting reports or things like that, that doesn’t really happen at this event.
FRASCHILLA: I think Chad summarized it, but specific to U.K., two years ago when Enes Kanter came here after not playing at Kentucky the one year that he was there, teams seemed to be very impressed with how good of shape he was in, the way he ran the floor, how hard he worked on the drills.
So it’s kind of window dressing a little bit for those people that have studied these players on a year round basis. But this is just one more slice of the pie, if you will, in terms of putting all the information together that’s going to go into the draft room on June 27.
from an ESPN interview from the Combine:
Q. The other question is more generic about what the NBA teams get out of the combine as opposed to running drills, I suppose, and measuring and so on, as opposed to what they see in actual competition in college games or in other settings?
FORD: I think one thing is this is a lot of times the first time that head coaches and coaching staff are really seeing these guys. They are so busy during the season coaching their own teams and scouting other NBA teams they don’t have a lot of time to get out and really scout these players, so this is often their exposure to this. And depending on the NBA team, some coaches have more of a say or less of a say in that drafting process, so that’s big.
Frankly for some of these GMs they are out extensively scouting throughout the year and some of them don’t. So, again, for some of the GMs, this is the first time in the gym with these players and first impressions can mean a lot.
As far as what they learn from an actual scouting perspective, I don’t think there is much there. I think the actual interviews they do with the players are much bigger. This is the first time that they’re allowed to sit down with the players and actually talk with them, they have to bring team psychologists in, and they bring the team doctors there to check them out medically. This is the first time for them to have that one on one experience with the players. And I think if you talk to most NBA teams, that is the thing that they get the most out of it.
Maybe one other thing I’d say is it’s the only time that all of these players are going to be on the floor together, so you get to see relative size, relative athleticism, relative skill level compared to each other on the floor at the same time. But as far as changing scouting reports or things like that, that doesn’t really happen at this event.
FRASCHILLA: I think Chad summarized it, but specific to U.K., two years ago when Enes Kanter came here after not playing at Kentucky the one year that he was there, teams seemed to be very impressed with how good of shape he was in, the way he ran the floor, how hard he worked on the drills.
So it’s kind of window dressing a little bit for those people that have studied these players on a year round basis. But this is just one more slice of the pie, if you will, in terms of putting all the information together that’s going to go into the draft room on June 27.
Park Bites
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with mccullums injury not participating I think will hurt him. teams will want to see if he is fully healed. I am hoping this might throw up a few red flags.
McCollum could still do the athletic testing and meet with team doctors if that's an issue. But he could have killed it in the shooting drills and helped his stock, I think, just given that he's not been on the court in a while.
mellow
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Jonathan Givony @DraftExpressOn international front Dennis Schroeder and Rudy Gobert are here. Schroeder won't do any drills (tooth pain?) But Gobert will do everything.
Thats Great! I took the day off to watch Shcroder because he is the next Stockton, Francis, Rondo, Kevin Johnson, westbrook, Rose, Wall, Payton and aminu combined.
Thats Great! I took the day off to watch Shcroder because he is the next Stockton, Francis, Rondo, Kevin Johnson, westbrook, Rose, Wall, Payton and aminu combined.
Derek Fisher gave Ricky Schroder some PG advice, and now he's opting out because of tooth pains?
Don't listen Ricky, he's a liar.
Don't listen Ricky, he's a liar.
