♪alt13
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Well of course your pro food stamps.
If I was getting something for free I would be all about it. I would try to resist and stand on principle, but free **** is cool.
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Well of course your pro food stamps.
If I was getting something for free I would be all about it. I would try to resist and stand on principle, but free **** is cool.
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Move to Somalia.
♪alt13
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First of all I hate the "move argument". Should Martin Luther King just moved because of Jim Crowe laws?
Secondly I think somalia might be a tough place to exercise bold
I believe in the freedom to:
carry a gun without a permit
speak openly
have faith
have no faith
drink any size soda that I want or drink any soda at all
not wear a seat belt
smoke in a bar(so long as the owner is ok with it)
burn flags
pay/get paid for sex
peaceful assembly
purchase and use mind altering substances
go where ever I want without a passport
marry a man or woman or a man and a woman etc.
not buy health insurance
pay a non-licensed beautician to cut my hair
buy beer on a sunday
drink it on my front porch
...
Hypothetical question...
Let's say we invented a gun which does not kill a person in anyway but it can entirely protect you or your home and make a person completely disable to harm you for a good amount of time. (like a much advanced version of a taser) It has all the necessary features like multiple firing and adequate range etc.
In this case, would you still call for the extensive freedom for current lethal guns? I'm asking this question because one of the main mainstays of the pro-gun crowd is self-defense.
BTW, I'm not stating my stand(which is irrelevant) on the subject in anyway, I'm just trying to understand the freedom concept when it's about the guns.
Let's say we invented a gun which does not kill a person in anyway but it can entirely protect you or your home and make a person completely disable to harm you for a good amount of time. (like a much advanced version of a taser) It has all the necessary features like multiple firing and adequate range etc.
In this case, would you still call for the extensive freedom for current lethal guns? I'm asking this question because one of the main mainstays of the pro-gun crowd is self-defense.
BTW, I'm not stating my stand(which is irrelevant) on the subject in anyway, I'm just trying to understand the freedom concept when it's about the guns.
Well, for the most part that sounds like an upgrade to a gun. I would think most people would simply prefer it to a gun even if both were legal. I mean, it even sounds like it could be used for hunting. Of course, this is a hypothetical "everything a gun can do except it doesn't kill." In real life there would probably be some give and take between the non-lethal gun and a traditional firearm.
For me, I already prefer a taser to a real lethal gun. If, of course, my main motive is self defense. I tried to picture a more perfected gun because, generally tough guys, real men, don't like ***** guns like a taser.
That has changed in Provo, you can buy beer on Sunday now!
Just in Provo? Still a no-go in the rest of Utah County?
Nah, we're wisening up one at a time due to lost tax revenue. A bar in Springville couldn't find anything on the city books and started selling. Same thing in Pleasant Grove. Springville gas stations followed soon after and then Provo got smart. At that point the drive wasn't far enough to justify Orem not changing the law.
I don't know about the rest of the county but we are no longer Arkansas!!! (royalties paid to Zulu)
You're better than stooping to such ideological rigidity and not separating issue by issue... I'm guessing being in Germany means you can't have either so I found this kind of funny where others might not have.
I know most cities you can, I think Orem might be the only one left you cant buy beer on Sunday in.
♪alt13
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Really! And I thought Utah county was just a place you passed through to go up Timpanogos.