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Burke's Rise to Become the Greatest PG in Today's NBA!

carolinajazz said:
"Burke's Rise to Become the Greatest PG in Today's NBA!"

...you got to be on crack cocaine, the best/strongest marijuana ever grown....or you down quarts of Wild Turkey 101 on a regular basis!
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C'mon CJ, out of all things to be banging on, comparing today's NBA athlete to yesteryear's, by implying today's player is more out of control, is just b.s. Players these days are far more careful how they treat their bodies. Your tattoo hate is one thing but trying to say they do more drugs and drink more is dishonest. I bet not one NBA player smokes cigarettes and back in your favorite times, half the team smoked. Hell, some lit up at halftime. I bet less than half of the players of today drink or smoke pot and only a small percentage abuse it. These players have a lot at stake. A lot more than before. Players from back in the day were regular smokers and drinkers and drug abusers. I dont buy it at all that it was cleaner in the older days.

Can you imagine Kobe Bryant, Lebron, or someone like Burke smoking cigarettes and snorting coke? Hell ****ing no you cant. .

So really the game has cleaned up and improved
 
1. Chris Paul, LAC
2. Damian Lillard
3. Russell Westbrook, OKC
4. Stephen Curry, GS
5. Tony Parker
6. Ty Lawson
7. John Wall
8. Kyrie Irving
9. Eric Bledsoe
10. Goran Dragic, PHO
11. Jrue Holiday
12. Mike Conley
13. Isaiah Thomas, SAC
14. Kemba Walker, CHA
15. Brandon Jennings
16. Jeff Teague, ATL
17. Michael Carter-Williams, PHI (Rookie)
18. Kyle Lowry, TOR
19. George Hill, IND
20. Ricky Rubio, MIN
21. Jose Calderon, DAL
22. Avery Bradley, BOS
23. Jameer Nelson, ORL
24. Reggie Jackson, OKC
25. Trey Burke, UTA (Rookie)
26. Deron Williams, BKN

Rondo top5 if he bounces back strong as ever. Parker also top3 at the end of the year when the Spurs start playing for real. Right now he's getting Pop wellness treatment. Deron obvi belongs top10 if healthy. Rose out for the season so might as well leave him completely out.
 
Wow, this is going to be pretty difficult. I think that in order to keep things even, we still need to go "what have you done for me lately?" where your entire past is thrown out as of the beginning of the year. If you are fighting through injuries, your game will correct itself and you will rise. I agree on eliminating Rose for now. He is nuked.
I guess to start on the most basic level, is the best Point Guard right now Curry or Paul? Stats say Curry going away.
 
framer said:
Wow, this is going to be pretty difficult. I think that in order to keep things even, we still need to go "what have you done for me lately?" where your entire past is thrown out as of the beginning of the year. If you are fighting through injuries, your game will correct itself and you will rise. I agree on eliminating Rose for now. He is nuked.
I guess to start on the most basic level, is the best Point Guard right now Curry or Paul? Stats say Curry going away.
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Not so fast my friend.

per 36

chris paul
19.9/4.9/11.7asts 2.6TO .456fg% 27.36 PER

stephen curry
23.1/4.0/8.9asts 3.9TO .456fg% 24.25 PER



chris paul is having a ridiculous season. more assists +less TOs = better point guard.
and stats only tell half the story. chris paul is the ultimate floor general. curry has a long way to go in that regard.
 
Paul is #1. Shouldn't even be a discussion.

1. Paul
2. Parker
3. Westbrook
4. Lillard
5. Wall
6. Curry

This is the cream of the crop as I see it. Wasn't sure about #'s 2-3, but at the end of the day I trust PRker more then Westbrook. If Rondo was healthy he'd probably be 3rd for me.


Second tier.

7. Bledsoe
8. Dragic
9. I. Thomas
10. Teague

Not sure about the rest right now.
 
Nah.

Curry is right up there with Paul. If not better. I agree with farmer. Thee is high.

I actually like Curry more than Paul. I would put Curry number 1. I know Paul has an argument to be number 1 but I like Curry a little bit better.
 
Curry: Weak clutch stats that just have started to turn a little bit in the right direction in the last month. No defense at all. Turnover prone. Sits a dozen games a season. Not looking to pass enough on attacks.
Wall: Losing team, 1-8 vs teams with a .500 record. His supporting cast isn't below .500 bad, his coach is though. Very weak crunchtime decision making. Loses an entire game alone. mediocre passing efficiency - for each good pass in the halfcourt he commits a turnover or costs a play by over dribbling. He turns it over a lot.
 
BTP said:
1. Chris Paul, LAC
2. Damian Lillard
3. Russell Westbrook, OKC
4. Stephen Curry, GS
5. Tony Parker
6. Ty Lawson
7. John Wall
8. Kyrie Irving
9. Eric Bledsoe
10. Goran Dragic, PHO
11. Jrue Holiday
12. Mike Conley
13. Isaiah Thomas, SAC
14. Kemba Walker, CHA
15. Brandon Jennings
16. Jeff Teague, ATL
17. Michael Carter-Williams, PHI (Rookie)
18. Kyle Lowry, TOR
19. George Hill, IND
20. Ricky Rubio, MIN
21. Jose Calderon, DAL
22. Avery Bradley, BOS
23. Jameer Nelson, ORL
24. Reggie Jackson, OKC
25. Trey Burke, UTA (Rookie)
26. Deron Williams, BKN

Rondo top5 if he bounces back strong as ever. Parker also top3 at the end of the year when the Spurs start playing for real. Right now he's getting Pop wellness treatment. Deron obvi belongs top10 if healthy. Rose out for the season so might as well leave him completely out.
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This is ballpark enough for me. Trey isn't close to the top yet so I don't see the point in arguing who's better between Curry-Parker-CP3.

I vote Rubio below Trey. That guy sucks.
 
Interestingly, in the CBS rankings I referenced, Burke just edged past Jarret Jack but was passed by Brandon Knight and Tyreke Evans.
I just don't see how you can not have Curry and Paul in some fashion 1 and 2 based upon their performance this season. Wall should be in the top 5. Thee seems to have completely forgot about the existence of Kyrie Irving who should be notched just a hair below where Wall is placed.
 
I also don't get the CBS love for Patrick Beverly. Is that dude some type of defensive stopper at point guard? I hate the Rockets and their addition of Dwight Howard whom I also hate hasn't made me a regular viewer of their games.
 
BTP said:
Curry: Weak clutch stats that just have started to turn a little bit in the right direction in the last month. No defense at all. Turnover prone. Sits a dozen games a season. Not looking to pass enough on attacks.
Wall: Losing team, 1-8 vs teams with a .500 record. His supporting cast isn't below .500 bad, his coach is though. Very weak crunchtime decision making. Loses an entire game alone. mediocre passing efficiency - for each good pass in the halfcourt he commits a turnover or costs a play by over dribbling. He turns it over a lot.
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Curry - best shoota eva
 
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